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and now

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chris o'brien is running a little late

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he's back home from believe it or not a

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little bit later we'll also be hearing

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from one of our

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famed forum moderators that sounds

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really positive goggs makai who will be

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reporting him from his palatial estate

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or shack in scotland of course last week

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when we had bob zanati a good friend of

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mine

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a former paranormal radio broadcaster on

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the show we had gogs as the guest

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co-host

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but this week we welcome back someone

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who was on the show

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back in 2013

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probably not long after he took on his

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as the what do they call it executive

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of the mutual ufo network move on now

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i've heard the post referred to as

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director international director and

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executive director is that a difference

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without a distinction well actually back

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in about

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2012 the then current international

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and said he'd like to change the title

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from international director to executive

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director to be more in line with what

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other non-profits call their lead you

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know executives so we went ahead and

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i actually like the international

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director better it sounds bigger

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it sounds more famous you know executive

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is somebody who sits in an office

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yeah but international director i mean

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that's tremendous it sounds like you're

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a world traveler but are you a world

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traveler does mufon have lots of members

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have uh well over 600 members worldwide

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we operate in 43 countries

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as well as all 50 states and uh just

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it's just because you brought that up

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i'll be traveling to brazil

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in two weeks to speak at a.j gavard's

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conference down there

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i believe it's saying falls or something

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to that effect i've never been there

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it's called the niagara falls of the

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south america but it's going to be quite

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a big conference that he runs every year

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it was nice enough to invite me to come

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down and present the mufon story

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aj has been on the power cast on several

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occasions we always have a lot of fun

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talking to him that sounds great how do

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organizations in other parts of the

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well actually uh aj for a number of

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years was a national director for mufon

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i mean we work i think fairly well with

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there's obviously lots of small uh ufo

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groups aj happens to run a much larger

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organization that he's been able to

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create with its own magazine and some of

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its own things uh but basically we you

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know we have a procedures manual for

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state national directors and

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if they sign on to become a national

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director and run a country or if they're

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they basically have guidelines for how

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that should be done so we

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followed up on that reports get

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completed properly that events are run a

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it's all through a procedures manual

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that basically keeps things for the for

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as much as we can they keep them

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centric which of course is not because

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going off the charts with us in fact one

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of our best cases came from there this

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they've gone gangbunksters and they've

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italy we don't get as much from the

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asian countries china japan and

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sure why that is if it's because of a

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stigma or it's just the language barrier

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japan and this is in the days of snail

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mail before we had email and

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instantaneous transmission so we're

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talking here

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about messages that might have taken

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a couple of weeks to get to me even if

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delivery method and there seemed to be a

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lot of activity there i had heard

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reports that there's a lot in china but

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again they're so walled off

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from the rest of the world except when

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they manufacture iphones and send them

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communicate or have you heard from

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people in china

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what kind of one-off out of china but

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not not anything in a coordinated

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fashion you know i would love to

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crack that market because i think it's

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one of the obviously most populous

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country in the world and they're very

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progressive people

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huge middle class over just the last 20

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opportunity there but i find that the

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asian culture and of course they're all

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about things and to discuss them amongst

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fact that he'd be giving a lecture and

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percentage will raise their hands

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sighting and then most of those hands go

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you're nuts

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that people will think they're nuts than

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actually asked a set of questions when i

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hubble telescope of all the galaxies out

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alone in the universe there's no other

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life out there except us

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differently i ask you know how many

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people here believe that there's other

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life out there somewhere in the universe

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you know somewhere in this vast universe

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hands that would go up but today

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person doesn't raise their hand but then

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people would think there's life out

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of the people in the u.s when they do

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these surveys believe in ufos and the

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prevailing opinion of course is that

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they come from other places other

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planets yeah the answer i don't really

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know the answer that i mean i think

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that's probably true but what i find

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fascinating is if i speak to a ufo group

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a crowd i mean it's like 80 90 say oh

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general public because i speak at

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libraries i had the opportunity to speak

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would think about maybe half but that

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tells me that there's a whole education

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process that has to happen for the other

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the three questions is how many of you

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experience with the ufo and that

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numbers that you were mentioning earlier

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director of mufon a lot more to go in

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the executive director of mufon the

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mutual ufo network and we're covering a

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lot of meta issues here about ufos

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now with the growing realization about

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life in the universe we see all these

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so-called goldilocks or type-n planets

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that are being discovered around other

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star systems getting closer and closer

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to us

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galactically speaking of course do you

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think that's also pushing

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or is it pushing more attention to ufos

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the possibility that et is here now not

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just a theoretical possibility i think

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it absolutely is i mean particularly

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when people are starting to see close-up

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images of some of these planets and some

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of the

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our deep space probes i mean i i think

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it's all point now this kepler telescope

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which is looking out so far out and

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finding these exoplanets i think it's

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becoming

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very obvious to the most casual of

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observers that there are earth-like

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planets all over the place out there i

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mean

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we live in a galaxy that has a 100

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billion stars

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and there are a hundred billion galaxies

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and if you multiply that out i mean

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you're talking the trill you know

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quadrillions of of

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every one of those stars has planets

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around it right at least one

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um the odds are just it's

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got to be that there's other people

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there's other life out there whether it

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looks like us or not i mean you can

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debate that but

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i think that's what's really pushing

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things right now is people are realizing

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that there's no way we're alone

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so but so but then the question becomes

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where are they

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why aren't they here why aren't they

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talking to why aren't they landing on

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the white house lawn and speaking to the

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president well i maybe maybe we're just

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not that interesting to them frankly

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yes but you'd also have to think here if

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they're coming to another planet we

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don't know what kind of ethics they have

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or if they have an ethics in the way we

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even understand it

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but

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certainly if they see us as a primitive

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race a primitive species wouldn't they

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be circumspect about what they do or

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they don't give a damn

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well you know the way the way i do is i

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flip it on its end and i say okay let's

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assume that we're out there circling a

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planet somewhere out in space and we

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look down and we see this life down

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there

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and they're killing each other and

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they're warring with each other and

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doing all these horrible things to each

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other would we want to go down and

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introduce ourselves to them

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i don't know i mean you know i always

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get a kick out of you know reports from

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a

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still to be told but

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i i just think honestly if anybody who's

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a hundred years a thousand years or a

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million years more advanced than us

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it'd be like us stopping along the side

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of the road to talk to a cow we see i

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mean

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we don't have a whole lot to say to them

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right so why stop

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now a bunch of possibilities come up and

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i have about four questions based on

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what you said but let's just look at one

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of them say there are a thousand years

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ahead of us ten thousand a million

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would we even recognize them for what

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they are would we even recognize the way

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they travel or is it possible what we

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see is just staged for our benefit

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i'm thinking of the movie contact where

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yeah the jody foster character sees her

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late father as supposedly e.t

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and he says i'm coming to you this way

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because you would not accept my real

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appearance

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i think it's highly likely that that's

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exactly right that uh

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they have the ability to i mean

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obviously there's more than one race out

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there visiting

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just take a very advanced race who's a

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thousand years more advanced than us

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that's a that's a very good possibility

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that they if we saw them in their

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current state we might we might freak

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out so

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knowing how our minds work they project

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to us what is something that we can

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accept uh in terms of what they look

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like so

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i think that's highly probable

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what about the possibility that we are

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in part

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interpreting what we see because it's so

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alien we're trying to make it seem as if

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it's something we accept

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well that's that's a good possibility

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too i mean you know

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joel barker did his whole

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stick on paradigms and how it's hard for

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people to

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grasp a new concept i think one of the

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toughest things to grasp is the fact

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that you've got people who aren't from

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here visiting us

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uh whatever form they're in

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there's a story about the uh the indians

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when uh

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came over from when we came over from

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europe that they couldn't see our ships

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because it was not in their paradigm

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that there would be ships these huge

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ships uh i don't know how you could be

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in the mind of an indian but or a native

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american but

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it makes some sense to me i've had my

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own conversations with people

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where they just can't grasp the

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possibility of there being

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extraterrestrials on this planet i mean

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it's just like so far outside of their

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belief system that they just block it

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out

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we have cases where people

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have extraordinary sightings and there's

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a group of them and yet half the group

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will completely forget they ever had

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that sighting even though the other

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people say no you were there with me we

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were in the car together don't you

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remember when you saw this and it's

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completely wiped from their brain now

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there's other reasons why that might be

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so but i find that fascinating that our

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minds

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become filters

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for anything that is so far outside that

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we can't accept it

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and i think it's a protection mechanism

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that's been built into the wiring of our

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brains that we don't overload and

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go crazy i mean i'm not a psychologist

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but i but i can i see the actual effects

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from talking to real witnesses about

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their experiences

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and i can attest that it's true

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now when you interview

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witnesses

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you your people over at mufon

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do you probe into their background into

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prior experiences of any kind that might

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be unusual or you focusing mostly on

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that particular sighting how much are we

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looking into the background of these

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people

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well i mean we basically look in the

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background in terms of who they are what

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they do for a living you know what what

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their educational level is um

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how long they've lived where they lived

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um vast majority of sightings i mean

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probably up in the night 90

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usually happen in someone's either

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backyard front yard you know i stepped

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out on the patio to let the dog out

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or light up a smoke and i looked up and

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saw this object you know

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it's uncanny how many of those

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cases start out that way so we basically

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verify the witness

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but we don't typically go back unless

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they share it with us we're focused

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primarily on what it is they reported

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now generally if they've had other

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experiences they'll probably mention

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those

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but we try to take them one report at a

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time you know we do have some people who

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have multiple

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repeated

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events happen to them

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um

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not always does it turn out that they're

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actual real events i mean we have people

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who just

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everything they see is a flying exhaust

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or everything they see is a an alien um

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so you have to kind of look at that and

602
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look at the data and kind of figure out

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what it is we we retain all the

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information that's been given to us and

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it all gets put in our database but

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um

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most people are lucky if they see one

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object in their lifetime i mean they're

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still people

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wishing they could see something who've

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been longtime mufon members and have

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never seen a craft

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well i look at it this way i may have

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had one ufo sighting when i was really

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really i'm not really young but in my

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20s which seems like an awful long time

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ago

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we got more to come with jan harzan of

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mufon and everything he's saying raises

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20 000 questions and we'll get into

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those questions and listen to questions

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as we progress

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i guess the experiences methods and

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mutual ufo network of which he is the

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executive director

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although of course he might have

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preferred to be called international

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director you can't change that now can

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you can he go to the board and say

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wouldn't you know wouldn't you really

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like to call me international director

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i could if i wanted yes yeah we could

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change it back if we want to do it's not

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that big of a

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of a deal but um executive director i

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mean i think i think it it plays well

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when i look at other nonprofits and how

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they do things they're all

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titled as executive director even though

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they might be international

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organizations they don't call them

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international directors so

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i just always thought that had a nice

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ring to it international director but

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it'll probably stay executive director

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let me ask you here a question from one

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of our listeners randall who goes by the

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name of ufology he's from canada and

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he's been a regular

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on the forums and also the show and a

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couple of these questions have a bit of

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an edge to it so

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let me

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go into it here if mufon obtained

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verifiable evidence of alien visitation

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which would you support

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okay one is a little bit critical but

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you know just ride with me here it's the

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question

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a cost-free disclosure to the public b

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disclosing it only for a price

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if so what price would you consider fair

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that might be a little kind of insulting

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wouldn't it

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no i mean the answer is flat out we

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would definitely put it out to the

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public free i mean it's that's

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we're here to report to the public i

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mean what we're trying to do is for

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those who are willing to support mufon

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just like paracast you know they get

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some extra perks and some different

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things like you know

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looking at our being able to look into

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our files going back 20 30 years

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um

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but no what we're trying to do is is if

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as information comes in i mean we've got

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a case today that

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we captured in 1957 but it's an

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extraordinary case

835
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:39,120
it's going to get written up in our

836
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:40,960
journal this month now of course you

837
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:42,159
have to remember to read the journal but

838
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:43,679
it'll get posted on our website that's

839
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:45,200
free to the public you can read about it

840
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:46,799
on the on the website

841
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:49,360
but for more detailed analysis and

842
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,520
in-depth uh view and writing on things

843
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:53,120
that will probably be a member-only type

844
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,000
of a perk but it only costs 4.99 a month

845
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:57,919
to be a member of mufon these days so

846
00:31:02,950 --> 00:30:59,360
it's not a big deal it's a cup and a

847
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,960
half of you know starbucks coffee

848
00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:04,960
truth so here starbucks coffee is more

849
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:06,159
than that

850
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:07,760
is it yeah

851
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:08,640
okay

852
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:10,240
well you know it just amazes me people

853
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:12,640
will put out hundreds of dollars a month

854
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:14,080
for coffee and things like that and they

855
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,600
don't even they don't even blink an eye

856
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:17,600
but boy if they have to pay 4.99 a month

857
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,880
for one thing to get the information

858
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:20,559
they really want to have

859
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:22,559
they get crazy about it but but no they

860
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:24,159
answer the gentleman's question i mean

861
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:25,440
absolutely if we have something

862
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:26,880
extraordinary we're going to break the

863
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:28,880
story and get it out to the public as

864
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:31,440
fast as we can now you brought up the

865
00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:32,799
question earlier about you know what do

866
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:34,960
we do with when we investigate sightings

867
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,720
i mean i think one big difference

868
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:38,720
between mufon and other organizations

869
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:41,200
who report things about ufos is we

870
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:43,440
actually take the time to go verify the

871
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:46,559
witnesses i mean we don't take someone's

872
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:49,519
story that they put out on the internet

873
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:51,279
and start ballyhooing it out to the

874
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:53,039
public that it's real until we know for

875
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,880
a fact that the person's been verified

876
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:56,880
the story's been verified if we can get

877
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,559
corroborating information as we have in

878
00:32:02,070 --> 00:32:00,399
this case i just mentioned boy that's

879
00:32:04,149 --> 00:32:02,080
important and then you've got a real

880
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,159
case that you can talk about with zeal

881
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:06,159
to to the public what i find though

882
00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:07,919
interestingly enough is that a lot of

883
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,519
public just yawns and goes on with their

884
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:11,519
daily lives it's like to them it's like

885
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:13,039
oh well there's the extraterrestrials

886
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:14,480
who cares

887
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:16,159
i just i just find that a fascinating

888
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:17,840
you know i had a friend once tell me

889
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:19,279
well jan this is all good and well if

890
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:20,960
it's true but you know what i still have

891
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:22,960
to pay my mortgage so i'm worrying about

892
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:24,720
that okay don't worry about paying the

893
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:26,720
mortgage sure but if

894
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:29,840
an e.t race revealed itself

895
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:32,720
that would be a major disruption to our

896
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,240
society

897
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:36,960
in fact is that also a possible reason

898
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:37,760
why

899
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,799
governments may not reveal

900
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:43,200
any such thing not necessarily because

901
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:46,720
ufos are hostile but just the existence

902
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:48,960
of something like that upends the energy

903
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,360
industry up ends all sorts of things

904
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,440
what about organized religion what kind

905
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:55,600
of impact does it have does that give a

906
00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:57,840
reason for possible secrecy

907
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:59,600
i think it absolutely does you know i

908
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,840
don't know personally why they don't

909
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:03,440
reveal what they know but i mean i could

910
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:05,600
put myself in their shoes and come up

911
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:06,799
with some really

912
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:09,440
important scenarios i mean the first one

913
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,559
is what you just said which is all the

914
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,240
disruption to our industries to our

915
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:14,799
stock market to our world religions to

916
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,399
different things i mean now it's

917
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:18,080
stopping right there for a second the

918
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:19,519
catholics are way out ahead of this

919
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,640
thing they've already announced that

920
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,480
there's extraterrestrial life you know

921
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:24,720
and they talk about it and and

922
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,960
uh they've been on camera on tv about it

923
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,399
and they basically they're looking at it

924
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:30,080
as an opportunity to

925
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:31,600
recruit new members to the catholic

926
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:33,120
church you know when these people show

927
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:34,799
up which i think is a great positive way

928
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:37,279
to look at it well they're looking at as

929
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,279
these are also god's subjects but what

930
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,519
if e.t lands and communicates to us and

931
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:43,760
says religion oh we

932
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,159
don't do that anymore or hey we were

933
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,760
here a couple of thousand years ago we

934
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:49,360
were here a hundred thousand years ago

935
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:51,760
and we did some genetic manipulation

936
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:53,679
and the way you are now

937
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:55,120
we put you here

938
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:57,120
yeah so here's what i say to people

939
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:58,080
because

940
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,600
absolutely is it possible we've been

941
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:01,360
genetically manipulated absolutely i

942
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,640
think i think it's probably a high

943
00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:04,000
probability

944
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,399
was it was that we were created by these

945
00:34:09,669 --> 00:34:08,720
extraterrestrials not necessarily by god

946
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,679
himself

947
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:11,919
it's a possibility uh but i always ask

948
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:13,359
okay so let's just assume that's the

949
00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:14,320
case

950
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:15,839
then who invented the extraterrestrial

951
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:18,560
like who who created the extra i mean it

952
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:20,000
all had to come from someplace so

953
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,280
there's got some place there's got to be

954
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:23,440
a creator it just didn't pop out of

955
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:25,359
nothingness i mean it had to i'm an

956
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:28,079
engineer by education and you know to me

957
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:29,760
i look at something and i look at and

958
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:32,399
i'm fascinated by the design of it and

959
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:34,720
you just look at the human body and the

960
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:36,480
intricate design and how all these

961
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,000
different systems within the body have

962
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,919
to work just perfectly or else you drop

963
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,000
dead well yeah but the human back

964
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,399
doesn't really make it i think whoever

965
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:47,280
created us they got to rethink the back

966
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:49,040
i just think of the bed technology we

967
00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:50,079
have you know what it would have been to

968
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:52,720
be like be living in a cave on a hard

969
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:54,960
rock floor and now we have our super

970
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:56,960
foam beds and everything else

971
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:58,079
i wouldn't have made it very long maybe

972
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:59,359
that's why they died so early back in

973
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,280
those days well i'm looking at a new

974
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:03,119
mattress now we need a new mattress and

975
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,560
we're looking into some of these foam

976
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:06,960
mattresses they sell online i won't

977
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:09,119
mention specific sponsors because we're

978
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:11,119
talking with them we might even add one

979
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:12,560
and i think if you add them you get the

980
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:13,359
bet

981
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:15,040
as part of the package so i'm just i

982
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,320
can't wait till that happens

983
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,920
let's get back to the disclosure thing

984
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:22,000
because we kind of fell into it okay but

985
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:23,680
i'd like to just continue with that if i

986
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:24,640
sure

987
00:35:29,829 --> 00:35:26,800
because i i think the more likely

988
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:29,839
scenario honestly is the fact that this

989
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:33,280
has major national security implications

990
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:35,440
if you have the ability to get here from

991
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:36,800
far out there

992
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:38,079
in essence

993
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:39,599
you're time traveling or you're

994
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:41,520
manipulating space and time to in a way

995
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:45,200
we've never even thought possible so

996
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,040
you would not want that to fall into

997
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:49,599
enemy hands because if it did i mean

998
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:51,920
just here's just a simple example you

999
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,920
know someone who had that kind of

1000
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,119
capability

1001
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:57,359
could put a nuclear bomb on the steps of

1002
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:58,800
the white house and blow it up before

1003
00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,000
anyone even knew it was there

1004
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,680
spontaneous boom there's no there's no

1005
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:04,000
way to to prepare against that to say

1006
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:05,200
you know so

1007
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:07,680
i can see where the national security

1008
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:10,160
of this thing was what drove it so deep

1009
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:12,480
in the secret world but i think we've

1010
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:14,880
come a long way in the last 70 60 70

1011
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:15,760
years

1012
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:17,680
as a civilization i mean we probably

1013
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,960
haven't as

1014
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:20,720
in my opinion one of the one of the big

1015
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,000
reasons why we wouldn't have wanted to

1016
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,400
announce this or brought this out is i

1017
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,880
think our spiritual advancement

1018
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:28,960
has far lagged behind our technological

1019
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,040
advancement as a race you know that's

1020
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,200
something we could continue

1021
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,599
chris o'brien's running late of course

1022
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:37,040
he returned earlier this week from

1023
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,760
thailand gogg's makai is probably stuck

1024
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:41,359
on the road somewhere getting back to

1025
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:43,839
his home we have jan harzan executive

1026
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:45,920
director of mufon i'm gene steinberg

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this is hilly rose and i hope that you

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do listen to the paracast because you

1130
00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:22,400
will learn a great deal about the

1131
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:23,870
paranormal

1132
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:32,470
we got jan harzan executive director of

1133
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:34,800
mufon joining us we're talking about

1134
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,280
the possibilities here of what the

1135
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:39,040
government may know

1136
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:42,240
or not know and obviously that's right

1137
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,400
with all sorts of possibilities but the

1138
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:46,079
question i guess we have over the years

1139
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:46,880
is

1140
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,960
assuming there was a government policy

1141
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:50,480
in the late forties

1142
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:54,079
to keep this under wraps for any reason

1143
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:56,400
how do you keep a secret generation

1144
00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:58,720
after generation president after

1145
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:01,760
president multiple political parties how

1146
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:03,040
do you do that

1147
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,480
well i think the first answer is you

1148
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,839
stop telling the presidents because i

1149
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,440
think after

1150
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,960
kennedy and

1151
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,319
richard nixon

1152
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:12,000
taking jackie gleason out to show them

1153
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:14,160
bodies i i think they realize you can't

1154
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:16,000
tell these guys a whole lot so but do

1155
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:17,839
you believe that that's the story did he

1156
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,839
really take jackie gleason out to show

1157
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:20,880
him bodies

1158
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,400
well that's what jackie said on his

1159
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:24,800
television show so i i don't know but i

1160
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:27,040
but i can tell you i think after that i

1161
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,960
think they ratcheted it back quite a bit

1162
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,880
i mean i believe that maybe the

1163
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:32,960
president knows just enough

1164
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:33,760
to

1165
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:36,000
keep him or her in the know but it's not

1166
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:38,400
so much that they know enough i found it

1167
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,400
interesting on jimmy kimmel live here

1168
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:41,920
this past year when

1169
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,200
obama was on and was repeatedly asked by

1170
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,520
jimmy about whether he had been to area

1171
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,000
51 or had done any investigating what

1172
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:52,240
was out there at first he joked about it

1173
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,000
and you can you can google it and watch

1174
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:55,920
the show that that segment that

1175
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:57,280
five-minute segment

1176
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,960
but at the very end after after really

1177
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,960
being pressed hard by jimmy kimmel about

1178
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,079
what he knew

1179
00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:04,240
president basically said

1180
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:05,920
i can't talk about it you know i can't

1181
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:07,599
reveal anything i think was his exact

1182
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:09,680
words i can't reveal anything and and so

1183
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,800
that tells you there's something to

1184
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:12,319
reveal i mean if you can't reveal

1185
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,520
something then you there's something

1186
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:15,520
there to reveal but i don't know that he

1187
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:18,160
knows much more than that i mean

1188
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:19,760
i think the way you keep things secret

1189
00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:21,760
is you tell very few people or you

1190
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,359
compartmentalize it i just had this

1191
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:25,520
conversation yesterday with dr bob wood

1192
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:28,079
who recently retired from our board but

1193
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:30,079
still actively involved in mufon and we

1194
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:31,520
were talking about you know

1195
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,760
the hardest thing for people to get

1196
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:35,599
who are not part of this ufo field even

1197
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:37,200
people in the oil field

1198
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:39,119
is how do they manage to keep this thing

1199
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,000
a secret and he said jan when i worked

1200
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:44,240
in government projects and had a

1201
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:45,599
security clearance

1202
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:47,599
they used like four different things

1203
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:48,560
i'll be like if i could remember the

1204
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,000
four things you told me but basically

1205
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:52,160
they start with uh

1206
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:55,200
appealing to your patriotism

1207
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,960
you are a good citizen of the united

1208
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:58,400
states and you want to you want the

1209
00:44:01,829 --> 00:43:59,920
united states to flourish so you will

1210
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,839
keep this a secret won't you

1211
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:03,599
and you think a lot about these old 80

1212
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:05,920
year old guys from world war ii and back

1213
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:07,359
i mean a lot of them have gone to their

1214
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:10,079
grave holding vast secrets of what they

1215
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:13,200
knew about the roswell crash about what

1216
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:16,160
happened at wright patterson i mean i

1217
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:17,599
mean we're at the very tail end of that

1218
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:19,680
generation now with just a few people

1219
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:21,760
still living and the vast majority of

1220
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:23,359
them are taking whatever they know to

1221
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,400
their graves which i just find

1222
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:26,720
fascinating probably the last generation

1223
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:29,200
was my country right or wrong i mean

1224
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:31,040
after most people went through the 60s

1225
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:32,000
and

1226
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:35,520
thing i think people became a little

1227
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:38,240
more jaded on the on the government uh

1228
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,760
and began to question the government

1229
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,200
particularly with the vietnam war and

1230
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,839
that whole thing uh so today i think

1231
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:45,119
people are pretty much yeah i'm being

1232
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:47,839
lied to i get it i'm being lied to him

1233
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:49,119
yeah that might explain a lot of the

1234
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,800
politics in the current election i don't

1235
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:52,319
want to get deep

1236
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:55,040
into the weeds there because we have

1237
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:56,560
this problem like a lot of people do

1238
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,160
where people tune into the show not to

1239
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:00,480
hear politics except of course they love

1240
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,160
to hear about the kennedy assassination

1241
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,480
or a 9 11 conspiracy but not the

1242
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,560
day-to-day politics because they get

1243
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:08,400
enough of that already and they come

1244
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:09,599
here and they don't want to hear it and

1245
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:12,240
when we even mention it in passing some

1246
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,319
freak so i am going to mention it

1247
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:16,800
because in relation to ufos you kind of

1248
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:18,480
have to if the government is holding a

1249
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:21,359
secret well politicians are in control

1250
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:24,000
or maybe they're not so your contention

1251
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:25,839
here is that presidents may know

1252
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:30,000
something but just the bare essentials

1253
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,440
i don't believe they're they're fully

1254
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:32,880
read in on everything that's happening

1255
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:34,400
and i don't think the american people

1256
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:36,160
will be either if they ever do come out

1257
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:37,599
and make an announcement

1258
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:39,440
we have to realize this is being run by

1259
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:41,920
the intelligence community which makes

1260
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,880
its its professions based on lies that

1261
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,560
we have to remember that it's the

1262
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:48,319
intelligence community that's running

1263
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,359
this thing

1264
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:51,680
and i mean they don't want the truth out

1265
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,839
there they want to observate it with

1266
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:55,359
with lies

1267
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:56,160
and

1268
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:58,880
you know so if we're ever told anything

1269
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:01,200
by our government by anybody we have to

1270
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:02,880
realize it's probably going to be a

1271
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:04,720
story that's been spun

1272
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:07,200
to play it the way they want us to hear

1273
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:10,480
it um not the truth so

1274
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:13,040
we'll probably never get the truth uh

1275
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:15,200
unfortunately that's i guess that's

1276
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:17,520
maybe my jaded way to say it

1277
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:19,440
it kind of reminds me of the silly story

1278
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:20,720
i made up

1279
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:22,000
i don't know a couple of years ago

1280
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,319
suggesting that if president obama in

1281
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:26,800
his final days in office

1282
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:29,200
finally gets up to the podium and says i

1283
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:31,359
have something to tell you that we've

1284
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,000
been keeping

1285
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:36,400
secret because of national security

1286
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:39,599
reasons he brings e.t out

1287
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:41,040
to the podium

1288
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,960
and says okay this

1289
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:45,119
person is from another world in another

1290
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:49,520
star system i'd say probably 50 to 75 of

1291
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:51,520
the people watching this would think

1292
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:53,520
it's just a trick

1293
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:55,920
yes i agree with you i agree with you i

1294
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:57,920
i've often said you know if a ufo

1295
00:47:02,150 --> 00:46:59,280
crashed in the middle of hollywood

1296
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:02,160
boulevard uh and the news crews all

1297
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:03,680
rushed there to take photographs of it

1298
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,839
most and put it on the six o'clock news

1299
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:07,440
that most people would think it was just

1300
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:09,599
a stunt by steven spielberg for a new

1301
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:10,400
movie

1302
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:12,560
you know it they they wouldn't even if

1303
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:14,000
they were told it was a real

1304
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:16,160
extraterrestrial craft that had crashed

1305
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:17,920
i think most of them would would pass it

1306
00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:20,800
off as oh this is just poppycock so yeah

1307
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,880
i agree with what you're saying frankly

1308
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:24,800
it wouldn't be like the scene we see in

1309
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,000
independence day where everybody reacted

1310
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,480
and people had roof parties

1311
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:32,319
it's the end of the world as we know it

1312
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:34,400
from the

1313
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,400
particular song in any case let's just

1314
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,480
move back to disclosure so

1315
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,240
we have presidents who promised

1316
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:42,720
something and we had hillary clinton

1317
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:45,040
going on several shows saying they'd

1318
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:48,640
look into uap that she knew that

1319
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:50,960
at all shows she did her research or

1320
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,800
wanted to make it seem as if she did her

1321
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:54,960
research we know john podesta

1322
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,480
actively is interested in ufos wrote the

1323
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:00,400
introduction to

1324
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:02,240
leslie kane's book

1325
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:04,079
but now we have a situation here

1326
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:07,440
obviously hillary lost so does that

1327
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:09,200
put the kibosh on any hopes that

1328
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:11,280
something's going to happen or maybe she

1329
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,280
just said that because she wanted all

1330
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:15,280
the votes she could get

1331
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:16,960
well we have to remember that you know

1332
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,640
we've had several presidents tell us

1333
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,000
they were going to tell us the truth on

1334
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,480
this i mean going back to uh

1335
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,640
we could think back to uh

1336
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:26,559
gerald ford when he was a congressman

1337
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:28,640
and ran a congressional hearing on ufos

1338
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:30,880
in fact it was the first and only time

1339
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:32,319
that a congressional hearing has been

1340
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,800
held on the subject of ufos

1341
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:36,160
to get to the bottom of what was going

1342
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:39,119
on in michigan back in 1966

1343
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:41,359
even though many many people testified

1344
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:43,599
absolutely nothing came out of it

1345
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,280
well i suppose if you include the

1346
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:47,280
continent report you can say quite

1347
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:49,599
accurately that nothing came out of it

1348
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,440
although many feel that was just a

1349
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,280
whitewash it certainly gave project

1350
00:48:57,030 --> 00:48:55,520
bluebook the excuse to shut down

1351
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:57,040
then that was followed up a few years

1352
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,400
later by jimmy carter when he was

1353
00:49:01,829 --> 00:49:00,400
running for president jimmy had his own

1354
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:01,839
ufo sighting

1355
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:03,280
as a governor

1356
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:04,800
and had vowed that when he got in the

1357
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:06,880
office he would reveal all the files on

1358
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,960
ufos to the american people

1359
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:10,720
that never happened

1360
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:11,760
we've had

1361
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:13,520
other people try to attempt to do it and

1362
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:15,920
then most recently of course hillary

1363
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:17,599
came out with her famous statements that

1364
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:20,000
if she's elected she'll

1365
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,960
push hard to get files released and i

1366
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:24,160
thought it was interesting that she said

1367
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:25,040
on

1368
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,680
the new word for ufo is uap i i love

1369
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:29,119
that the scientists don't want to be

1370
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:30,400
associated with the word ufo because

1371
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:32,079
there's too much craziness around that

1372
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:32,960
word

1373
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:35,599
but but they'll call it uap well excuse

1374
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:37,280
me but it's the same thing i mean it's

1375
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:41,440
an unidentified aerial phenomenon so uh

1376
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:43,760
but she couched the words with and she

1377
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:46,000
ended her statement public statement by

1378
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:48,000
saying unless

1379
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:51,119
it has national security implications

1380
00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:53,839
well excuse me i i think

1381
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:55,599
extraterrestrials coming from some place

1382
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,880
out there whether it's out there right

1383
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:58,800
here or however they get here

1384
00:50:01,109 --> 00:49:59,920
would have national security

1385
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:01,119
implications so basically what you've

1386
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:02,160
said is i'm going to tell you everything

1387
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:03,280
unless

1388
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:04,720
i can't tell you everything

1389
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:06,079
when we already know that she won't be

1390
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:07,680
allowed to tell anything so

1391
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:09,680
i i didn't really jump at that one i

1392
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:10,960
think it's nice that she was talking

1393
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,319
about it i think it's great that john

1394
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:14,880
podesta has a uh

1395
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:16,720
keen interest in this and and wants to

1396
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:18,559
see it come out i mean i'm all for

1397
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,160
anybody who wants to put the truth out

1398
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,480
there uh i just don't believe that

1399
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:24,079
anybody in public power is going to be

1400
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:27,119
able to be granted that um

1401
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:28,480
i wouldn't mind going back and just

1402
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,680
picking up on a question you asked a

1403
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,680
little earlier sure and that was how do

1404
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:33,440
they keep it secret

1405
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,640
because

1406
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:36,400
what i was shared with yesterday by bob

1407
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:37,200
wood

1408
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,079
from

1409
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:40,400
was a physicist at mcdonald douglas for

1410
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:43,520
43 years working on top secret projects

1411
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:46,160
uh he said it's basically four things

1412
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,520
the first is they appeal to your

1413
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:50,160
patriotism you know as a good american

1414
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:51,200
you certainly wouldn't want this

1415
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:53,040
information out there because it could

1416
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:55,599
harm your country right you salute and

1417
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:58,240
you say yes yes and then then basically

1418
00:51:02,549 --> 00:50:59,839
they make you sign

1419
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:02,559
paperwork that says if you ever talk

1420
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,240
about this subject

1421
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:06,160
you know now some of the things don't

1422
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:07,839
have like a 30-year shelf life to them

1423
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:10,000
some have an infinite shelf life to them

1424
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:11,359
but if you do then you're going to lose

1425
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,640
your pension

1426
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,400
all these bad things could happen to you

1427
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,720
and oh by the way you could go to jail

1428
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:18,880
um you know and so

1429
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:20,880
you basically make people sign an

1430
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,280
agreement with their signature that says

1431
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:25,119
they're not going to talk about this

1432
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let's do our break and continue on the

1433
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methods they may use threats and

1434
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whatever to keep a secret we have jan

1435
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harzan the executive director of mufon

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1488
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welcome back to the paracast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio

1490
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and now

1491
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:17,880
here's gene steinberg

1492
00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:23,510
we're having a very pleasant session

1493
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:25,280
here with jan harzan going back and

1494
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:29,200
forth talking about a lot of ufo aspects

1495
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:31,119
but right now we want to continue about

1496
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:32,640
how to keep the secret and you were

1497
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:34,640
mentioning in our previous segment one

1498
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,720
is to sign an agreement

1499
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:39,119
you know in blood whatever's saying

1500
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:41,200
you're not going to disclose this on

1501
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:44,160
every penalty in creation

1502
00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:46,000
things that'll happen to you

1503
00:54:50,790 --> 00:54:49,119
now i suppose you can add that that if

1504
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:50,800
you're not here anymore we'll take

1505
00:54:54,790 --> 00:54:53,119
action against your family because they

1506
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:54,800
may be in on the secret because of

1507
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:56,559
suspicion wouldn't that be a way to

1508
00:55:01,109 --> 00:54:58,720
prevent the deathbed confession

1509
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:01,119
absolutely i mean you you basically the

1510
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:03,680
third step is you threaten them if you

1511
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:05,440
talk about this bad things will happen

1512
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:07,920
to you and your family do not talk about

1513
00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:08,640
it

1514
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,760
and we've had a number of people who

1515
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:11,359
have been threatened with their lives on

1516
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,680
that and then the fourth step

1517
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:15,599
is they kill you and they just make you

1518
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:16,720
disappear

1519
00:55:20,069 --> 00:55:17,440
so

1520
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:20,079
okay wait a minute wait a minute let's

1521
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:22,319
go with that one for a moment they make

1522
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:24,240
you disappear or in the modern lingo

1523
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:26,240
they disappear you

1524
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:28,720
so we have dr mcdonald the scientist

1525
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:31,520
from the 60s who supposedly offs himself

1526
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,240
the ufo researcher from the 50s mk

1527
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,480
jessup who wrote the case for the ufos

1528
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,160
we're not talking about the annotated

1529
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,920
edition and the philadelphia experiment

1530
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:41,760
in that nonsense but we have two

1531
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:43,920
instances here where people kill

1532
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,920
themselves now they may have had

1533
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:47,520
perfectly

1534
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:48,559
normal

1535
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:51,280
if unfortunate reasons for doing that

1536
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:54,880
but do we have any evidence anybody has

1537
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:56,480
disappeared or

1538
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:57,760
possibly

1539
00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:59,760
offed themselves because of the threat

1540
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,119
or pressure

1541
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:03,119
well i think i think we do yeah i think

1542
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,160
it happens typically in a fashion where

1543
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:08,160
there's always a doubt

1544
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:09,040
as to

1545
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:11,599
whether it was purposely done people

1546
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,400
just

1547
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,400
jump out of their hospital window james

1548
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:16,559
ford arsenal head of the c.i.a generally

1549
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:17,599
you wouldn't put someone in charge of

1550
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,000
the cia who is suicidal that's not what

1551
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:22,160
we typically do but yet

1552
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:25,440
he died under mysterious circumstances

1553
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:27,520
because he supposedly jumped out of his

1554
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:29,920
hospital window you mentioned mcdonald

1555
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:32,000
you've mentioned some other folks i mean

1556
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:33,200
i know

1557
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:35,920
that it's hard to prove this

1558
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:38,400
but we just see people who just end up

1559
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:39,440
dead

1560
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:41,520
who are going down a path i mean

1561
00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:43,760
congressman schiff in new mexico i think

1562
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:46,480
it's highly strange that a man who goes

1563
00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:47,920
up against the government the air force

1564
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:50,079
specifically and asks for the records

1565
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,160
from roswell to be delivered to his

1566
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:54,240
office and of course they can't find

1567
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,000
them they can't find the records which i

1568
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:58,319
find fascinating as well like oh just

1569
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,680
the time period that you're exactly

1570
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,280
asking for just happened to disappear

1571
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,280
out of our files along with hillary

1572
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:05,680
clinton's emails yeah yeah there may be

1573
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:07,119
the same vault as hillary clinton's

1574
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:09,520
emails perhaps but he he died within a

1575
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:12,640
year of that of cancer i know having

1576
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:15,200
talked to dr steven greer he's had

1577
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:16,640
claims he's had cancer plant i don't

1578
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:17,760
have no reason to disbelieve him i mean

1579
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,280
he's had cancer planted on him twice

1580
00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:21,119
trying to kill him i know how do you

1581
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:24,559
plant cancer on someone i wish i knew

1582
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:26,480
maybe i don't want to know but it's

1583
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:27,440
probably through some kind of

1584
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:30,480
electromagnetic means of of doing that i

1585
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:32,000
honestly don't know i do know that there

1586
00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:33,680
are researchers who were close to him

1587
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:36,319
who frankly have moved away because

1588
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:37,839
they're afraid for their own life his

1589
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,559
own

1590
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,880
assistant sherry adamak

1591
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:42,960
died of cancer which they believe was

1592
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:44,559
planted on her so

1593
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:46,480
you know i had ben rich

1594
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:48,079
who spoke to me

1595
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:50,400
uh at this ucla event many many years

1596
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:52,720
ago not just to myself but to 200

1597
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,280
engineers at the meeting and then more

1598
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:57,839
privately in a smaller session about our

1599
00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:59,359
capabilities for

1600
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:01,520
um traveling to the stars

1601
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:02,640
he ended up dying a year and a half

1602
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:05,040
later of cancer uh it was evident to me

1603
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,480
he was trying to get the word out of

1604
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:08,880
what our capabilities were back in 93

1605
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:10,000
and there's powers out there i don't

1606
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:11,440
think you want that out there now could

1607
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:12,880
any of those have been deaths could have

1608
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,720
been caused by natural cause when i say

1609
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,640
natural causes that it wasn't someone

1610
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:18,640
who planted it there or didn't purposely

1611
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:20,559
do it it's always possible but the

1612
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:22,640
problem is you have so many of them in a

1613
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,520
row

1614
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:25,440
that it looks very strange that these

1615
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:27,520
people who knew too much

1616
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:28,960
all of a sudden just weren't there

1617
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:31,520
anymore that's the question

1618
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,960
of course if you want to look at the

1619
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:34,720
skeptical approach that you'd say well

1620
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:37,119
how many people who have no known

1621
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:38,880
interest in ufos

1622
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,440
die suddenly of cancer or anything else

1623
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:43,680
i mean i think of my late brother-in-law

1624
00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:45,280
stephen biser

1625
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:47,599
where he seemed to be okay in decent

1626
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:49,359
health and within a few months he's

1627
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:51,839
diagnosed with pancreatic cancer

1628
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:53,119
he undergoes

1629
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:55,280
chemotherapy and he's gone

1630
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:56,400
yes

1631
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:58,799
it's it's a hard thing to prove i i jean

1632
00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:01,359
i absolutely say that but it just looks

1633
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:03,359
so strange when you have these people i

1634
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,760
mean it's just as it just seems like the

1635
00:59:08,789 --> 00:59:07,599
odds of it happening that many times in

1636
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:08,799
a row is just

1637
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:12,000
too great to not be something there

1638
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:14,079
right but don't you think if the

1639
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:16,240
government off somebody

1640
00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:17,760
or at least move someone in that

1641
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:19,040
direction

1642
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:20,319
doesn't that

1643
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:22,400
raise the other possibility that this

1644
00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:26,319
act will be exposed or look suspicious

1645
00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:28,079
well i think the vast majority of people

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take the same take which you had done

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00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,760
which is you know okay i have people die

1648
00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:33,680
every day of cancer so people die every

1649
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:34,880
day of a heart attack so the fact that

1650
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,119
this guy had a heart attack here was

1651
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:39,359
something was shared for me by by uh

1652
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:42,160
i can't use his name because uh he

1653
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:44,240
wants to keep a lower profile but it was

1654
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:45,680
a gentleman who's come out with some

1655
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:46,799
pretty extraordinary things within the

1656
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:48,720
ufo field he's not he's not a ufo guy

1657
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:49,839
he's just

1658
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:51,920
a guy who was in the military and had an

1659
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,119
experience and he shared it with the

1660
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:55,359
public and it's kind of not helped his

1661
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:56,960
life a lot so he's kind of like trying

1662
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:59,760
to lay low on it but basically was in an

1663
01:00:02,470 --> 01:00:01,119
intelligence operation back in the

1664
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:02,480
vietnam war

1665
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:04,720
and he said jan basically it was

1666
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:07,359
surveillance satellite photographs of

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01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,720
the vietnam

1668
01:00:12,789 --> 01:00:10,720
area what we were bombing on and the

1669
01:00:14,789 --> 01:00:12,799
targets as well as in cambodia and there

1670
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,799
was these guys knew

1671
01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:15,920
before it was ever announced to the

1672
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:17,520
public that we were in cambodia when we

1673
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:18,640
were supposed to be you know congress

1674
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:20,640
had said you're not to go outside of the

1675
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:22,880
vietnam you can't do that but yeah we

1676
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,400
were running missions all day long in

1677
01:00:27,829 --> 01:00:26,400
cambodia in laos

1678
01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:27,839
where we weren't supposed to be

1679
01:00:32,230 --> 01:00:30,240
according to congressional law but these

1680
01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:32,240
guys knew it anyway

1681
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:35,440
they were told you cannot travel to

1682
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:37,200
your anywhere outside the united states

1683
01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:38,559
because of because of your security

1684
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:40,960
clearance and what you what you know

1685
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:43,040
you are a security risk you can't leave

1686
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:44,480
the country

1687
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:45,520
well

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01:00:49,510 --> 01:00:47,680
there was a guy working with him uh

1689
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:49,520
there was one of a twin the twins were

1690
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:51,520
both working there and he decided to

1691
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:53,760
take his family on a trip to a family

1692
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:56,480
vacation to europe that was he didn't

1693
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:58,559
follow the rules

1694
01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:00,880
well while he was over there

1695
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:04,319
his car went off a cliff and killed him

1696
01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:06,880
and this gentleman said to me jan we all

1697
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:08,559
knew

1698
01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:10,960
that because he broke the rule he was

1699
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:12,400
taken care of

1700
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:14,559
and i'll tell you none of us

1701
01:01:17,109 --> 01:01:15,599
ever

1702
01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:17,119
broke the rules after they they

1703
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:18,559
basically knew that if they didn't do

1704
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:20,559
what they were told to do

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01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:22,079
something not so good would happen to

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01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:23,680
them and he was said he was frightened

1707
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:25,760
for his life he was he was fearful for

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01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:26,799
his life

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01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:27,680
i mean

1710
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:28,960
i don't know how many of these people

1711
01:01:32,630 --> 01:01:30,160
would come forward and share that with

1712
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:32,640
you but i mean trust me they they will

1713
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:33,920
do what they need to do to keep the

1714
01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:35,520
secret

1715
01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:37,200
what about roswell i mean we've had the

1716
01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:39,599
deathbed confessions we had people

1717
01:01:43,109 --> 01:01:41,440
remembering all this stuff the only

1718
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:43,119
thing that bothers me about roswell is

1719
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,520
that it didn't happen until 30 years

1720
01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:47,839
after the event that these things first

1721
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:49,599
started coming forth

1722
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:51,599
but wouldn't we have seen something

1723
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:54,240
there if roswell was more than just a

1724
01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:56,640
test aircraft or a balloon

1725
01:02:00,870 --> 01:01:57,920
i'm not sure i understand the question

1726
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:00,880
would we have seen why do we see people

1727
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:02,880
coming out with all this stuff about

1728
01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:04,079
roswell

1729
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:05,599
all these

1730
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:08,160
recollections of 1947

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01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:10,480
even if they came 30 years later

1732
01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:13,359
if there was a crash of a spaceship

1733
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:14,720
there or not

1734
01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:16,960
as is sometimes theorized a test

1735
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:19,680
aircraft or a mogul balloon

1736
01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:21,599
wouldn't there have been more activity

1737
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:24,160
to prevent them from saying anything

1738
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:25,760
well i guess the way i would ask the

1739
01:02:29,109 --> 01:02:27,599
question is why is the air force work so

1740
01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:29,119
hard to debunk this i mean they've

1741
01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:31,200
written 500 page books about the fact

1742
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:32,480
that it was a

1743
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:34,400
crash dummy and a balloon you know

1744
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:35,680
they've changed their story three

1745
01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:37,280
different times at first it was a

1746
01:02:41,349 --> 01:02:39,280
weather balloon you know back in in the

1747
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:41,359
day that was the day after it happened

1748
01:02:45,190 --> 01:02:43,119
you know that then it was something else

1749
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:45,200
and then it was a mogul balloon and and

1750
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:47,280
then it was uh oh it was just a crash

1751
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,960
dummy you know

1752
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:50,640
sent up in a balloon and for testing

1753
01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:53,119
purposes in a flight suit um that people

1754
01:02:56,710 --> 01:02:54,880
saw that's what they saw when they saw

1755
01:02:59,589 --> 01:02:56,720
these these uh

1756
01:03:01,349 --> 01:02:59,599
supposed extraterrestrials so i mean

1757
01:03:02,630 --> 01:03:01,359
they have worked awfully hard to try to

1758
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:02,640
debunk

1759
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:04,559
something that if it was just a weather

1760
01:03:07,109 --> 01:03:05,520
balloon they could say it's just a

1761
01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:07,119
weather balloon i mean but you've got

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01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:08,880
you know

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01:03:14,950 --> 01:03:12,950
officials

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01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:14,960
i would hope that they would know what a

1765
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:16,640
weather balloon looks like versus some

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01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,520
other

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01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:19,760
extraterrestrial craft

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so um

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i think the best

1770
01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:25,280
thing i ever saw on roswell

1771
01:03:29,109 --> 01:03:27,280
was a video done i believe was done by

1772
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:29,119
stanton freeman many many many years ago

1773
01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:30,960
you might have been alluding to it but

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it was called recollections of roswell

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know and then what the people in roswell

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knew and what might have been done to

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was stanton friedman well this was done

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recollections of roswell probably one of

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the best videos i have ever seen he did

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it with first hand witnesses the

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children of witnesses there were some i

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think 20 or 30 people he interviewed and

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just the fright and the fear on these

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people when they spoke basically

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revealing that when this happened and

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they were there they were told by the

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military people that if they said

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anything about it they'd be picking

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their bones out of the desert and

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not such a polite way so they knew that

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if they said anything they would not be

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around much longer you just watch these

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people and you watch their faces and you

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01:09:25,110 --> 01:09:22,880
watch the fear come across them and

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01:09:26,870 --> 01:09:25,120
break down and crying and it's like why

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01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:26,880
would they do that if they didn't have

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01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:28,319
an extraordinary experience like they

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01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:30,480
say they did so um i just thought it was

1918
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:32,560
a very compelling movie and anyone who

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01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,440
wants to uh know about that i would get

1920
01:09:38,950 --> 01:09:37,279
a copy of that videotape

1921
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:38,960
well you raise a very important point

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01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:40,239
there

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how

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01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:44,000
often are people going to fake that in

1925
01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:46,880
fact how many people even fake ufos or

1926
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:50,239
ufo sightings or experiences and maybe

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01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:52,799
let's talk about that just very briefly

1928
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:55,040
as we kind of move aside from this

1929
01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:57,120
now we know there have been ufo hoaxes

1930
01:10:01,510 --> 01:09:58,880
over the years we know it's common for

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01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:01,520
people on youtube to put up fake ufo

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01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:03,199
photos more so now because the

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01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:05,520
technology it's so easy with all the

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01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:08,640
digital fancy stuff the new iphone 7

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01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:11,679
plus with the dual cameras and 4k video

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01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:14,880
capability that and some video editing

1937
01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:16,880
processing software you can do some

1938
01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:18,320
amazing things

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01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:19,840
absolutely but but the thing with

1940
01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:22,719
digital is you can also go behind it

1941
01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:24,480
there is exit data there's different

1942
01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:25,600
things you can look at to see if

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01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:26,880
anything's been changed you can also

1944
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:29,120
look at the pixelation on the to see if

1945
01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:31,199
they put something in there and we are

1946
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:32,960
pretty good at being able to figure out

1947
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:35,199
the hoaxes it's a very small percentage

1948
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:37,360
i mean uh not necessarily the videos per

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01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:39,280
se but just in overall

1950
01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:42,400
of the 10 000 cases say a year they get

1951
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:43,600
reported to us

1952
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:45,840
only two three maybe four percent are

1953
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:48,159
hoaxes some of those aren't even they're

1954
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:50,880
just basically people writing stuff uh

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01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:52,880
and making it up and that's pretty easy

1956
01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:55,199
to spot as well so i'm not really

1957
01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:57,120
worried about the hoaxes i i think those

1958
01:11:01,510 --> 01:10:59,280
are easily taken out of the equation our

1959
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:01,520
biggest challenge in ufology is that we

1960
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,320
have a high noise to signal uh ratio in

1961
01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:06,080
other words you know out of 10 sightings

1962
01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:08,800
maybe only one of them is a real craft

1963
01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:11,120
from someplace else the rest tend to be

1964
01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:13,040
just misidentified things

1965
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:14,719
so because of that high noise to signal

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01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:15,679
ratio

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01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:17,760
that's what allows people to hide behind

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01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:19,440
this thing and say oh it's just this

1969
01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:21,199
it's just swamp gas it's just a blend of

1970
01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:23,040
venus it's just a balloon and the vast

1971
01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:25,360
majority of the public will accept that

1972
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:27,520
and go away without giving it any other

1973
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:30,400
thought to most people i think ufos are

1974
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:32,640
matters of entertainment even if they

1975
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:34,400
believe that there are real things

1976
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:36,960
happening possibly spaceships

1977
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:39,840
it's not a direct interest is just a

1978
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:42,239
passing interest oh okay that's what's

1979
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:44,719
going on that's cool let me go on and

1980
01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:46,480
struggle with life and struggle with the

1981
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:48,080
economy and worry about this that and

1982
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:49,840
the other thing right i mean it doesn't

1983
01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:51,920
impact them directly so therefore why

1984
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:53,120
should i worry about i have enough other

1985
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:54,880
things to worry about i'll worry about

1986
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:56,320
it when they're you know you know

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01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:58,640
obstructing my drive or something it's

1988
01:12:01,510 --> 01:12:00,159
like if if it isn't anything i have to

1989
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:01,520
deal with right now i'm not going to

1990
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:03,280
deal with it i find that as a very

1991
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,440
common uh response

1992
01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:07,440
but how do you get people and this takes

1993
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:09,520
us away from disclosure because i don't

1994
01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:10,719
believe it's ever going to happen or if

1995
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:12,159
it does it have to be

1996
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:13,920
the press of events

1997
01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:15,840
how to get past that with the general

1998
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:17,679
public how do you say wait a minute

1999
01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:18,640
folks

2000
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:22,320
this can change society this is the most

2001
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:24,880
important event of our times other than

2002
01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:26,239
global warming or any of the other

2003
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:28,640
concerns this can have a more immediate

2004
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:30,960
impact well that's exactly what you do

2005
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:33,920
you you appeal to the so what the so

2006
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:35,040
what is

2007
01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:36,159
look if there's

2008
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:38,400
beings visiting us from wherever they're

2009
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:39,280
from

2010
01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:41,440
with advanced technology what if we had

2011
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:43,280
access to that advanced technology what

2012
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:44,960
would our world look like the picture

2013
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:46,719
that i would paint is that we'd have the

2014
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:49,280
ability to travel between

2015
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:52,560
la and hong kong in an instant right we

2016
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:55,199
could literally live in paris

2017
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:57,040
work in los angeles and have dinner in

2018
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:59,120
hong kong all in the same day because we

2019
01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:01,040
just skip around with this

2020
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,640
transportation whatever you want to call

2021
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:04,560
it fashion fastener-like travel

2022
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:06,719
wormhole technology whatever it is that

2023
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:08,560
allows them to do that

2024
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:10,080
if we had that it could transform the

2025
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:12,000
whole planet not to mention traveling

2026
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:13,840
off-planet going to any place you'd want

2027
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:16,239
to go to in in our solar system maybe

2028
01:13:20,550 --> 01:13:18,960
even in another galaxy so i think it's

2029
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:20,560
extraordinary i mean every time i have

2030
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,679
to sit on an airplane i've got to go

2031
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:23,760
down to brazil i mentioned my first leg

2032
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:25,920
of the flight from los angeles to peru

2033
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:27,920
is 11 hours then i get to sit in an

2034
01:13:31,030 --> 01:13:29,600
airport for nine hours and then i get

2035
01:13:32,870 --> 01:13:31,040
another four and a half hour flight the

2036
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:32,880
falls that we're supposed to be showing

2037
01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:35,920
up at so i literally i have a 24 hour

2038
01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:38,000
wall clock time of transportation just

2039
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:40,719
to get me from los angeles to brazil

2040
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:42,880
that's just ridiculous well the thing is

2041
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:45,440
here though we would assume then that

2042
01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:46,640
e.t

2043
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,159
if they were to

2044
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:50,239
get into open contact with us would be

2045
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:52,400
willing to gift us this technology they

2046
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:54,480
may decide well you know what we're not

2047
01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:56,000
ready for that we're not going to do

2048
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:57,520
that we're not going to disrupt your

2049
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:00,159
society because the disruption to go to

2050
01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:02,560
free energy whatever it is you think

2051
01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:05,120
about the oil interests you think about

2052
01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:07,840
all the industries that are impacted by

2053
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:11,840
this that's just the natural evolution

2054
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:14,480
of the use of energy but now if we have

2055
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:16,000
a situation where it's disrupted

2056
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:18,719
overnight how do we handle that or isn't

2057
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:21,040
that another reason to keep a secret as

2058
01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:22,880
a matter of fact even if we were in

2059
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:25,040
touch with et the governments wouldn't

2060
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:27,520
that be a cautionary note to say you

2061
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:30,000
know don't do this we're not ready or

2062
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:31,679
maybe they feel that way if they have a

2063
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:33,600
code of ethics you know you mentioned

2064
01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:34,880
the free that was give me my second one

2065
01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:36,800
which is free energy i mean that's just

2066
01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:38,320
that's just the transportation and the

2067
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:39,920
free energy point are just

2068
01:14:43,910 --> 01:14:41,920
to me too the biggest reasons why we'd

2069
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:43,920
want to delve into this and and research

2070
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:46,560
it more uh and there's many others but

2071
01:14:51,189 --> 01:14:49,040
my gosh you know you look at wars on

2072
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:51,199
this planet the vast many of them are

2073
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:53,920
all over resources right uh oil

2074
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:55,679
getting into the middle east if we

2075
01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:57,679
didn't have that as an issue

2076
01:15:01,669 --> 01:15:00,640
how much greater our our lives would be

2077
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:01,679
in terms of

2078
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:04,960
less conflict now of course you can be

2079
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:06,960
do it in a disruptive way

2080
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:09,520
and that might cause a lot of people to

2081
01:15:13,189 --> 01:15:12,080
be displaced but i mean you just have to

2082
01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:13,199
work through it you have to think

2083
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:14,800
through it and what can we do

2084
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:15,840
i think there are other things that

2085
01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:17,360
people can be doing i was talking to

2086
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:18,320
someone the other day and they're

2087
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:19,920
telling me about basically where the

2088
01:15:23,669 --> 01:15:22,080
robotic technology is and that within

2089
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:23,679
the next few years

2090
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:26,239
you know most of what we do in our daily

2091
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:27,679
lives is going to be taken over by these

2092
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:29,360
robots

2093
01:15:32,630 --> 01:15:31,040
because the computers

2094
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,640
are reaching a point

2095
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:34,080
where there's more compute power in

2096
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:36,560
there than in the human brain and if we

2097
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:38,640
can just figure out the programming for

2098
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:40,480
how to put that together you've got

2099
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:43,520
watson from ibm which uh you know beat

2100
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:45,440
jeopardy and all the best jeopardy

2101
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:48,239
champions and the chess players um

2102
01:15:51,030 --> 01:15:50,080
that was you know 10 years ago 20 years

2103
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:51,040
ago

2104
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:53,280
the exponential curve for the technology

2105
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:55,760
accelerating is just still on on a ramp

2106
01:15:58,470 --> 01:15:57,760
up uh you know doubling every two years

2107
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:58,480
so

2108
01:16:02,149 --> 01:16:00,159
there are phenomenal things that happen

2109
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,159
to us in the next 10 to 20 years that we

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01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:04,239
just can't even fathom i mean could you

2111
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:06,960
have fathomed 10 15 20 years ago having

2112
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a smartphone where you could have

2113
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literally information at your fingertips

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you could speak to the phone and would

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tell you anything you want to know tell

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you how to get there how to make a

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reservation that you know facts about

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things i use it all the time i mean if

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i'm trying to do research on a paper or

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an article i'm writing i'll ask the

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question you know what how many are

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these there how many of this that and it

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well obviously we can't predict what our

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technology is going to be we can only

2277
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:31,840
guess i mean

2278
01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:35,520
we guessed in star trek in the 1960s

2279
01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:37,120
what technology would be like in the

2280
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:38,719
23rd century

2281
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:40,239
but we already have some of that

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01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:42,080
technology now

2283
01:22:45,189 --> 01:22:43,920
you know and we're talking at least

2284
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:45,199
scientists are talking about the

2285
01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:47,520
possibilities of some kind of faster

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01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:50,080
than light travel or a warp drive

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01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:53,120
and some way to transport matter like

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01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:54,800
the transporter

2289
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:56,960
and we have the flip phones and we have

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01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:59,199
the tricorders which could be an apple

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01:23:02,470 --> 01:23:00,400
watch or

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01:23:04,390 --> 01:23:02,480
iphone or something like that so a lot

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01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:04,400
of what we predicted

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01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:07,120
for the far future is here now and isn't

2295
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:08,800
that part of the problem too in

2296
01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:10,400
predicting the future we can only look

2297
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:12,960
at what we have now and imagine what it

2298
01:23:15,669 --> 01:23:14,080
would be

2299
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:15,679
but it looks like with star trek

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01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:17,520
especially with all the impact it had on

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01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:18,719
society

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01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:20,960
you know we're doing it 200 years ahead

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01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:22,880
of what they suspected

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01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:24,159
i think it's because we're on an

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01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:26,080
exponential curve

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01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:28,560
from a technology standpoint

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01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:30,400
yeah i agree

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01:23:33,750 --> 01:23:31,600
i don't know what's going to be like and

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01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:33,760
that's why we can't predict what e.t

2310
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:35,360
would be like

2311
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:38,159
now the other question here if ufos are

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01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:39,679
known to the u.s government they have

2313
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:42,320
guilty knowledge of what's going on

2314
01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:44,960
how or is it shared with other countries

2315
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:47,440
or can they even get that genie back in

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01:23:51,669 --> 01:23:48,800
the bottle

2317
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:51,679
well i i don't know how much is shared

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01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:54,480
uh but i do believe that there

2319
01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:57,600
it is shared with certain governments

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01:24:01,750 --> 01:23:59,199
i don't as far as getting it back in the

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01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:01,760
bottle i think it's just a matter of i i

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01:24:05,990 --> 01:24:04,400
do believe there's probably some form of

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01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:06,000
i just have to believe there's some form

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01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:07,760
of plan for how we can let this thing

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01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:08,560
out

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01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:10,800
and bring us back on a timeline that

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01:24:15,110 --> 01:24:13,760
that merges again um i think that

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01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:15,120
timeline is that there are a number of

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01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:16,800
scientists and engineers currently who

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01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:18,400
are working in the white world i call it

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01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:19,520
the white world as opposed to black

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01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:20,560
world

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01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:24,719
secret government programs

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01:24:27,910 --> 01:24:26,239
who are working on faster than light

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01:24:30,229 --> 01:24:27,920
travel and what that would mean for

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01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:30,239
mankind i had the opportunity to

2337
01:24:36,310 --> 01:24:33,600
recently attend a workshop with

2338
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:36,320
29 30 of these scientists and engineers

2339
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:38,320
up at estes park colorado

2340
01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:39,920
and where they basically spent their

2341
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:41,440
time presenting to each other on the

2342
01:24:46,149 --> 01:24:43,679
different things they're working on

2343
01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:46,159
all revolving around einstein's theory

2344
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:47,600
of relativity

2345
01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:49,199
the maxwell equations and different

2346
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:50,719
things trying to figure out what the

2347
01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:52,800
breakthrough is that allow us to to

2348
01:24:57,030 --> 01:24:55,679
travel out to the stars so um

2349
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:57,040
eventually we're gonna we're gonna bust

2350
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:59,120
that one open and it's going to be it's

2351
01:25:03,189 --> 01:25:00,960
going to be well known one of the

2352
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:03,199
scientists there

2353
01:25:06,070 --> 01:25:04,800
shared with me that

2354
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:06,080
because i said to him i said you know i

2355
01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:07,840
had this conversation with ben rich back

2356
01:25:11,110 --> 01:25:09,120
in 93

2357
01:25:13,510 --> 01:25:11,120
where he basically said we have the

2358
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:13,520
technology to take e.t home we have

2359
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:14,960
we can travel to the stars and it won't

2360
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:17,440
take us our lifetime to do it so

2361
01:25:20,950 --> 01:25:19,120
somewhere this has already been done i

2362
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:20,960
said wouldn't it make sense to go find

2363
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:23,679
those things and what i was told was two

2364
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:24,719
things

2365
01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:27,040
one is that when these

2366
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:30,320
black projects are completed

2367
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:31,600
and they're over

2368
01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:33,760
all the records for them get destroyed

2369
01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:36,000
except for two copies and those are put

2370
01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:38,400
in separate vaults but no one ever gets

2371
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:39,520
to see

2372
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:42,239
the copies of the final report so

2373
01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:45,120
uh basically it's almost impossible to

2374
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:47,120
transfer technology out of the black

2375
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:48,000
world

2376
01:25:54,629 --> 01:25:52,000
used for our betterment the you know

2377
01:25:56,709 --> 01:25:54,639
mankind's betterment um the other thing

2378
01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:56,719
that he shared with me was that

2379
01:25:59,669 --> 01:25:58,159
they're getting hints

2380
01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:59,679
from the intelligence community on where

2381
01:26:02,149 --> 01:26:00,800
to go look

2382
01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:02,159
but it's kind of like go look under that

2383
01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:03,440
rock and see if you can see find

2384
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:04,800
anything but but they're not giving them

2385
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:06,000
enough hints

2386
01:26:10,149 --> 01:26:07,440
to be able to

2387
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:10,159
make the the final breakthrough they'll

2388
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:11,520
make the breakthrough eventually just

2389
01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:12,960
because we always do

2390
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,960
but uh

2391
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:16,239
they're getting hints but they're not

2392
01:26:18,950 --> 01:26:17,440
getting

2393
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:18,960
all the facts that they need to like

2394
01:26:22,629 --> 01:26:20,719
make it happen today i think this is

2395
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:22,639
being done for a very specific reason

2396
01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:24,159
one is

2397
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:25,600
they are

2398
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:28,800
doing it to help get this announced

2399
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:31,280
and get it into the white world

2400
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:33,920
with the belief being that we invented

2401
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:35,360
it ourselves in other words it didn't

2402
01:26:37,990 --> 01:26:36,880
come out of some black project it was

2403
01:26:40,709 --> 01:26:38,000
something oh

2404
01:26:42,310 --> 01:26:40,719
scientist a or b you know discovered

2405
01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:42,320
this thing and because of that great

2406
01:26:45,189 --> 01:26:43,840
discovery we all of a sudden can travel

2407
01:26:46,550 --> 01:26:45,199
to the stars i mean that's the way it'll

2408
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:46,560
be played out and that's the way the

2409
01:26:50,310 --> 01:26:48,239
public will come to believe it

2410
01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:50,320
so the technology is handed out to us

2411
01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:51,280
slowly

2412
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:53,280
by e.t is that what you're suggesting

2413
01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:55,280
that almost takes us back to

2414
01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:56,719
philip corso

2415
01:27:00,790 --> 01:26:58,400
obviously the day after roswell was

2416
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:00,800
highly disputed and of course the book

2417
01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:02,400
was heavily edited from the original

2418
01:27:06,950 --> 01:27:05,040
manuscript but he said

2419
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:06,960
and it could be just a metaphor for what

2420
01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:09,440
really happened that he was the bag man

2421
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:11,760
bringing alien technology into private

2422
01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:14,800
industry and even that may just be

2423
01:27:18,709 --> 01:27:17,120
a basic concept that he did that but he

2424
01:27:20,149 --> 01:27:18,719
didn't tell you what kind of technology

2425
01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:20,159
he only tells you it's night vision

2426
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:21,280
goggles

2427
01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:23,760
right um well yeah so backing up a

2428
01:27:27,910 --> 01:27:26,639
little bit here um

2429
01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:27,920
i

2430
01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:31,840
although

2431
01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:33,679
that's probably two steps back what i

2432
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:35,360
was trying to say is that that you've

2433
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:37,600
got people on these black projects who

2434
01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:39,920
have the technology my suspicion is they

2435
01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:41,360
got it from extraterrestrials i mean

2436
01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:42,880
that would make sense if we've had crash

2437
01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:44,960
saucers and things we've recovered and

2438
01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:47,600
back engineered and through the help of

2439
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:49,199
people like colonel corso where they

2440
01:27:53,669 --> 01:27:51,520
took that foreign technology which what

2441
01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:53,679
they call it and gave it to corporations

2442
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:56,480
like att ibm and others to go

2443
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:57,840
play with and figure out how does this

2444
01:28:01,830 --> 01:27:59,840
substrate work or what does it do what

2445
01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:01,840
does this what does this

2446
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:05,120
beam or line of light do

2447
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:06,800
and then develop out of that things like

2448
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:09,360
you know fiber optics and and other

2449
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:10,960
technologies

2450
01:28:13,669 --> 01:28:12,400
i do believe that that's the case but in

2451
01:28:15,910 --> 01:28:13,679
the case of what i was talking about

2452
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:15,920
with this group of scientists at estes

2453
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:17,840
park

2454
01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:19,920
they're basically being pointed in the

2455
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:21,679
direction to go look

2456
01:28:26,149 --> 01:28:24,400
by the intelligence community

2457
01:28:27,750 --> 01:28:26,159
go look under this rock and you will

2458
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:27,760
maybe you'll find something of interest

2459
01:28:31,510 --> 01:28:29,840
you know so they're being prodded along

2460
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:31,520
but they're not being told enough

2461
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:33,280
that they're they're not going to be

2462
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:35,280
given the answer and i think the reason

2463
01:28:37,990 --> 01:28:36,719
they're not going to be given the answer

2464
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:38,000
is because

2465
01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:40,080
they want these scientists to discover

2466
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:41,520
this on their own so they can say oh

2467
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:43,600
this was a great discovery by so and so

2468
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,880
and the public will believe just like

2469
01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:46,320
the transistor where'd the transistor

2470
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:48,560
come from who thought up the transistor

2471
01:28:53,110 --> 01:28:50,800
well we have an historical record the

2472
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:53,120
point is here you can go to wikipedia

2473
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:54,400
yeah and look up invention of the

2474
01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:56,560
transistor and see a very specific

2475
01:29:01,750 --> 01:28:59,280
record of patents and research that led

2476
01:29:03,669 --> 01:29:01,760
you there but isn't it also possible for

2477
01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:03,679
that record to be altered later on after

2478
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:04,719
the fact

2479
01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:05,840
well i don't think the record was

2480
01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:07,760
altered i'm not trying to say that but

2481
01:29:12,790 --> 01:29:09,679
what i'm saying is perhaps that person

2482
01:29:14,470 --> 01:29:12,800
who discovered it was prodded along by

2483
01:29:15,430 --> 01:29:14,480
somebody who had the

2484
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:15,440
you know

2485
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:17,280
in the intelligence community

2486
01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:18,960
if we found these transistors or

2487
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:20,800
whatever on a craft or something it

2488
01:29:25,590 --> 01:29:23,120
could have been implanted or or they

2489
01:29:27,350 --> 01:29:25,600
could have been pushed prodded along to

2490
01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:27,360
to come to the discovery of oh my gosh

2491
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:30,400
if i do this i i get that and so

2492
01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:31,440
um

2493
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:32,639
i'm just saying it's a possibility and

2494
01:29:36,070 --> 01:29:34,159
it's a smart way to do it because what

2495
01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:36,080
you can then do is you can begin to

2496
01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:38,400
diverge this this black world with the

2497
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,920
white world so at some point in the

2498
01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:41,600
future whether it's 10 years out 50

2499
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:43,520
years out 100 years out the two come

2500
01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:44,960
back together

2501
01:29:48,629 --> 01:29:46,639
because if all of a sudden we start

2502
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,639
having interstellar travel

2503
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:50,080
it's not going to be too long before we

2504
01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:51,840
start running into other people out in

2505
01:29:55,510 --> 01:29:54,080
the universe i mean if there's somebody

2506
01:29:57,030 --> 01:29:55,520
out there which there definitely is in

2507
01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:57,040
my opinion

2508
01:29:59,990 --> 01:29:58,480
and you've got the ability to travel

2509
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interstellar you're you're going to run

2510
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well we have to see how that happens in

2511
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we're having a very enjoyable

2624
01:35:24,070 --> 01:35:21,440
conversation here about what we might

2625
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:24,080
know about et technology how it might be

2626
01:35:27,270 --> 01:35:26,239
filtered into private industry on the

2627
01:35:29,270 --> 01:35:27,280
other hand

2628
01:35:33,669 --> 01:35:29,280
isn't it just as possible that all this

2629
01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:35,669
i hardly think so but that's

2630
01:35:39,430 --> 01:35:37,840
that's just my personal opinion i think

2631
01:35:42,229 --> 01:35:39,440
well certainly you know if you look at

2632
01:35:44,229 --> 01:35:42,239
people like tesla

2633
01:35:45,430 --> 01:35:44,239
a lot of these very very smart people

2634
01:35:46,629 --> 01:35:45,440
einstein

2635
01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:46,639
a lot of their stuff came to them

2636
01:35:49,750 --> 01:35:48,400
through dreams so you have to ask you

2637
01:35:51,110 --> 01:35:49,760
know through

2638
01:35:52,709 --> 01:35:51,120
other means it wasn't something that

2639
01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:52,719
they just sat there on a blackboard one

2640
01:35:56,870 --> 01:35:54,719
day and drew up themselves they were

2641
01:35:58,229 --> 01:35:56,880
kind of shown the way if you will so you

2642
01:36:00,229 --> 01:35:58,239
have to ask yourself how does that all

2643
01:36:02,149 --> 01:36:00,239
work maybe it has an extraterrestrial

2644
01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:02,159
background maybe it doesn't maybe it has

2645
01:36:05,669 --> 01:36:03,760
a spiritual background maybe it doesn't

2646
01:36:07,750 --> 01:36:05,679
but but basically

2647
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:07,760
it wasn't like they were so smart and

2648
01:36:10,629 --> 01:36:09,280
they'd gone to school so long they were

2649
01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:10,639
so intelligent that they figured this

2650
01:36:15,189 --> 01:36:12,880
out a lot of these people didn't even

2651
01:36:16,390 --> 01:36:15,199
have college education i mean they just

2652
01:36:17,910 --> 01:36:16,400
i mean tesla i don't believe had a

2653
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:17,920
college education i mean he just he just

2654
01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:19,199
came up with these ideas on how to

2655
01:36:23,189 --> 01:36:21,600
transmit power through the air some of

2656
01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:23,199
that's being used today in fact i mean

2657
01:36:27,510 --> 01:36:25,040
samsung just came out with its wireless

2658
01:36:29,189 --> 01:36:27,520
charger you just put your phone down on

2659
01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:29,199
the table and it charges itself there's

2660
01:36:32,870 --> 01:36:31,360
no wires to plug in you know what that's

2661
01:36:35,270 --> 01:36:32,880
not unusual because there still are

2662
01:36:37,430 --> 01:36:35,280
sensors i was playing with a wireless

2663
01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:37,440
charging device i don't know maybe 10

2664
01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:40,000
years ago we had interviews on my tech

2665
01:36:43,590 --> 01:36:41,920
show the tech night out live before

2666
01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:43,600
there were smartphones

2667
01:36:45,990 --> 01:36:44,400
right

2668
01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:46,000
so it's not something that's terribly

2669
01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:48,320
unusual again you know this is something

2670
01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:50,320
where we really don't know

2671
01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:52,719
we can just as well say okay

2672
01:36:56,950 --> 01:36:54,960
we invented it we're smart people we

2673
01:36:57,990 --> 01:36:56,960
figured this out or we had a little bit

2674
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:58,000
of help

2675
01:37:02,629 --> 01:37:00,480
right and but again i don't know where

2676
01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:02,639
the smoking gun exists for the latter

2677
01:37:06,390 --> 01:37:04,560
it's just speculative

2678
01:37:08,149 --> 01:37:06,400
i would i would not disagree with you

2679
01:37:11,189 --> 01:37:08,159
but i'm just saying that the

2680
01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:11,199
samsung wireless chargers is

2681
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:12,080
based

2682
01:37:18,149 --> 01:37:16,719
uh patents that were done you know 100

2683
01:37:19,270 --> 01:37:18,159
years ago so

2684
01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:19,280
it's great that we're using that

2685
01:37:22,310 --> 01:37:21,040
technology today i'd love to see more of

2686
01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:22,320
it used

2687
01:37:25,270 --> 01:37:23,840
but then is it possible that our

2688
01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:25,280
experimentation

2689
01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:28,080
with matter transportation with possible

2690
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:32,159
warp drive ideas that was also fed to us

2691
01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:33,920
well it's certainly possible i mean from

2692
01:37:36,470 --> 01:37:35,600
my point of view and what's important is

2693
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:36,480
that we

2694
01:37:42,310 --> 01:37:39,520
make uh good peaceful use of it uh you

2695
01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:42,320
know to help our planet to help our our

2696
01:37:48,629 --> 01:37:45,520
our humanity community uh

2697
01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:48,639
live better lives and and have a much

2698
01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:51,840
richer future for all of mankind you

2699
01:37:55,189 --> 01:37:53,199
know the problem with most things that

2700
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:55,199
are technology-wise is the first thing

2701
01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:56,159
that happens to them is they get

2702
01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:57,600
weaponized

2703
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:58,960
and we start using them to kill each

2704
01:38:00,709 --> 01:37:59,760
other

2705
01:38:02,149 --> 01:38:00,719
and so

2706
01:38:04,229 --> 01:38:02,159
i think it's time we kind of reversed

2707
01:38:05,830 --> 01:38:04,239
that course and we started saying okay a

2708
01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:05,840
new technology has come along let's

2709
01:38:08,950 --> 01:38:07,840
figure out how to make something good

2710
01:38:10,709 --> 01:38:08,960
out of it

2711
01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:10,719
and and put it to the betterment of all

2712
01:38:15,669 --> 01:38:13,360
mankind not just a few and not to

2713
01:38:17,669 --> 01:38:15,679
enslave mankind but to free mankind i

2714
01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:17,679
mean that's that's to me that's the

2715
01:38:20,390 --> 01:38:18,960
important part of the whole thing

2716
01:38:21,669 --> 01:38:20,400
whether it came from extraterrestrials

2717
01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:21,679
or didn't come from extraterrestrials

2718
01:38:26,629 --> 01:38:24,159
whether it came from some other place um

2719
01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:26,639
i think that's what's important

2720
01:38:30,149 --> 01:38:28,159
very very

2721
01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:30,159
briefly

2722
01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:31,440
we've talked about the theory of a

2723
01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:33,280
breakaway civilization one or more

2724
01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:35,280
there's several people hold that we know

2725
01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:36,800
that richard dolan has talked about

2726
01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:38,400
breakaway civilization this is

2727
01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:41,199
civilization there are people on earth

2728
01:38:46,629 --> 01:38:44,400
who decided to go their own way and that

2729
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:46,639
maybe the ufos and maybe some of these

2730
01:38:50,470 --> 01:38:49,040
great inventions are coming from them

2731
01:38:53,350 --> 01:38:50,480
what do you think

2732
01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:53,360
i think it's it's very possible uh you

2733
01:38:56,629 --> 01:38:55,040
know back in the

2734
01:39:00,149 --> 01:38:56,639
30s and 40s and

2735
01:39:01,590 --> 01:39:00,159
50s mostly in the 40s you had a group of

2736
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:01,600
individuals

2737
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:03,520
down in new mexico

2738
01:39:09,270 --> 01:39:07,040
oppenheimer einstein edward teller these

2739
01:39:12,550 --> 01:39:09,280
were brilliant minds of the day and so

2740
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:12,560
let's just presuppose that perhaps they

2741
01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:14,320
stumbled upon something

2742
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:15,760
uh in the

2743
01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:17,520
theory of relativity that einstein had

2744
01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:19,760
come up with that by tweaking this thing

2745
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:21,600
one way or the other way

2746
01:39:25,109 --> 01:39:23,040
could allow us to do time travel or it

2747
01:39:27,189 --> 01:39:25,119
could allow us to do some extraordinary

2748
01:39:28,950 --> 01:39:27,199
things i don't know whether they would

2749
01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:28,960
have shared that with everybody i don't

2750
01:39:34,390 --> 01:39:32,320
know i mean einstein had just seen his

2751
01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:34,400
emc equals mc squared turned into a

2752
01:39:36,870 --> 01:39:35,840
nuclear bomb i don't think that was his

2753
01:39:37,990 --> 01:39:36,880
intent when he came up with that

2754
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:38,000
equation

2755
01:39:42,149 --> 01:39:40,080
but the military people took that and

2756
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:42,159
figured out how to build bombs out of it

2757
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:43,600
i i think it's very possible that

2758
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:46,480
someone in the very far past uh i'm

2759
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:49,199
going back now 80 years 70 years 60

2760
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:51,280
years could have come up with this and

2761
01:39:55,350 --> 01:39:53,119
taken it underground and and do it

2762
01:39:57,350 --> 01:39:55,360
there's there's stories about the nazis

2763
01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:57,360
being down in the antarctic uh that that

2764
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:58,400
some of the scientists took the

2765
01:40:01,030 --> 01:40:00,000
technology they had with the nazi bell

2766
01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:01,040
and things and

2767
01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:03,199
ended up these craft and flew down there

2768
01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:04,800
whether it's true or not i don't know

2769
01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:07,119
but but it's certainly possible i i

2770
01:40:13,270 --> 01:40:10,000
think that we had a team of scientists

2771
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:13,280
in new mexico back in in the 40s uh who

2772
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:14,880
were developing

2773
01:40:18,629 --> 01:40:16,800
under the manhattan project in the late

2774
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:18,639
30s 40s

2775
01:40:21,270 --> 01:40:20,080
manhattan project

2776
01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:21,280
they could have been they could have

2777
01:40:25,030 --> 01:40:23,040
stumbled upon other

2778
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:25,040
things that that uh

2779
01:40:29,109 --> 01:40:26,880
i find it interesting that you have all

2780
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:29,119
these crashes in and around that area it

2781
01:40:32,950 --> 01:40:30,960
all happened about the same time

2782
01:40:34,550 --> 01:40:32,960
what is a possibility it was us

2783
01:40:36,070 --> 01:40:34,560
developing some kind of time travel

2784
01:40:37,430 --> 01:40:36,080
machines that as they re-entered into

2785
01:40:39,109 --> 01:40:37,440
our time zone

2786
01:40:40,870 --> 01:40:39,119
we didn't have the wherewithal at the

2787
01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:40,880
time to to steer them properly and so

2788
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:42,320
they kept crashing i mean there's a

2789
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:43,920
whole bunch of these crashes

2790
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:45,760
that all happen at the same place

2791
01:40:49,030 --> 01:40:47,600
well speaking of crashes we have for

2792
01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:49,040
example roswell

2793
01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:51,679
we also have aztec and i totally

2794
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:54,159
disbelieve aztec i think there's very

2795
01:40:58,870 --> 01:40:56,560
little support for it what do you think

2796
01:41:00,790 --> 01:40:58,880
i really can't talk about it i i

2797
01:41:03,189 --> 01:41:00,800
i don't know enough about the aztec

2798
01:41:04,629 --> 01:41:03,199
crash to be able to to debate it one way

2799
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:04,639
or the other but you've got the san

2800
01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:07,119
antonio crash you've got the sen

2801
01:41:10,390 --> 01:41:08,560
augustine crash

2802
01:41:11,910 --> 01:41:10,400
i had spent some time in san antonio

2803
01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:11,920
paula harrison invited me down there to

2804
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:13,760
meet with the witness to go out on the

2805
01:41:19,109 --> 01:41:16,159
ranch to talk to him about his

2806
01:41:21,189 --> 01:41:19,119
experience as a child with his buddy

2807
01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:21,199
to show me the metal that they had gave

2808
01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:22,800
us some chips we could go test the metal

2809
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:23,760
with

2810
01:41:27,669 --> 01:41:25,600
off of that um

2811
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:27,679
obviously something crashed there now

2812
01:41:32,870 --> 01:41:30,719
whether it was extraterrestrial or not

2813
01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:32,880
i don't know um but it was something

2814
01:41:38,310 --> 01:41:35,440
extraordinary and the fact that the army

2815
01:41:39,910 --> 01:41:38,320
showed up and hauled it away it took a

2816
01:41:41,109 --> 01:41:39,920
couple weeks to get it

2817
01:41:44,629 --> 01:41:41,119
loaded on a truck and get it out of

2818
01:41:47,270 --> 01:41:44,639
there uh would say that the military had

2819
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:47,280
some

2820
01:41:53,350 --> 01:41:51,199
it was just recovering it and taking it

2821
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:53,360
back to be looked at or whether it was a

2822
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:55,520
craft that had been experimental type

2823
01:41:58,629 --> 01:41:57,040
craft that had crashed and they were

2824
01:42:01,590 --> 01:41:58,639
coming to retrieve it i don't i don't

2825
01:42:04,070 --> 01:42:01,600
know but we know that with all these

2826
01:42:06,470 --> 01:42:04,080
different cases out there

2827
01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:06,480
that it seems to have been a hotbed back

2828
01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:08,800
in the late 40s

2829
01:42:12,149 --> 01:42:09,600
and

2830
01:42:16,070 --> 01:42:12,159
early 50s even at the socorro

2831
01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:16,080
landing back in 64. now that's almost

2832
01:42:19,750 --> 01:42:18,239
20 years later 10 20 years later but

2833
01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:19,760
that was an actual landing and then to

2834
01:42:23,669 --> 01:42:21,600
take off again but there's all this

2835
01:42:24,950 --> 01:42:23,679
activity around this particular area now

2836
01:42:26,470 --> 01:42:24,960
you could say it's because it's our

2837
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:26,480
nuclear site and where we're testing

2838
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:28,719
nuclear bombs and things and these et's

2839
01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:30,239
had an interest in coming and see

2840
01:42:34,149 --> 01:42:32,159
watching what we were doing

2841
01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:34,159
that's certainly a possibility as well

2842
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:35,600
but i i wouldn't say that it's

2843
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:37,360
impossible that we didn't come up with

2844
01:42:40,229 --> 01:42:38,880
something ourselves

2845
01:42:42,229 --> 01:42:40,239
and that many many of these crafted

2846
01:42:46,149 --> 01:42:42,239
things that were reported were actually

2847
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,159
our own experimental craft being tested

2848
01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:48,400
it's one hypothesis i should put

2849
01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:49,920
out there

2850
01:42:53,189 --> 01:42:51,440
well it certainly is and certainly

2851
01:42:54,950 --> 01:42:53,199
looking at different possibilities what

2852
01:42:56,709 --> 01:42:54,960
about some of these other

2853
01:42:59,430 --> 01:42:56,719
issues and you raise one of them right

2854
01:43:01,669 --> 01:42:59,440
here which may be time travelers maybe

2855
01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:01,679
part of it and not because we have all

2856
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:04,159
these time travel shows on tv now like

2857
01:43:08,470 --> 01:43:06,000
timeless and dc's in a legends of

2858
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:08,480
tomorrow but we're so interested in time

2859
01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:10,400
travel do you foresee that as any

2860
01:43:16,229 --> 01:43:12,480
possibility and what about the danger of

2861
01:43:19,510 --> 01:43:18,070
i think we may be on a loop you know

2862
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:19,520
like groundhog day we're just going back

2863
01:43:23,030 --> 01:43:21,280
and doing it over again

2864
01:43:26,470 --> 01:43:23,040
well i think time travel is probably a

2865
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:27,590
my own

2866
01:43:31,189 --> 01:43:29,280
experiences with this

2867
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:31,199
i was with the professor who was one of

2868
01:43:35,350 --> 01:43:32,560
the professors i can use his name it's

2869
01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:35,360
james woodward he wrote the book

2870
01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:37,199
interstellar travel or

2871
01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:39,040
let's see interstellar travel stargates

2872
01:43:42,709 --> 01:43:40,719
i'll get the name of it here it's i'll

2873
01:43:44,390 --> 01:43:42,719
look it up but basically he wrote a book

2874
01:43:45,990 --> 01:43:44,400
on how to do this stuff

2875
01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:46,000
i was in his lab and he was sharing with

2876
01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:47,360
me some experiments he'd been doing

2877
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,040
called moc's principle based on mac's

2878
01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:51,280
principle where he's getting thrust out

2879
01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:52,480
of basically where he shouldn't be

2880
01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:55,040
getting any kind of inertia out of what

2881
01:43:58,229 --> 01:43:56,800
he shouldn't be getting any from based

2882
01:43:59,350 --> 01:43:58,239
on a set of equations and things that

2883
01:44:01,750 --> 01:43:59,360
he's been doing

2884
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:01,760
uh but as we're sitting there talking he

2885
01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:03,360
said to me jenny says you know i think a

2886
01:44:06,950 --> 01:44:05,280
hundred years from now he said well

2887
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:06,960
maybe even 20 30 years from now you'll

2888
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:09,119
be able to have a watch on your wrist

2889
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:10,880
you'll be able to put in a

2890
01:44:14,310 --> 01:44:12,880
place and a time

2891
01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:14,320
press a button

2892
01:44:18,709 --> 01:44:16,639
and your own personal wormhole will open

2893
01:44:20,870 --> 01:44:18,719
up and you'll be able to step through to

2894
01:44:23,270 --> 01:44:20,880
that place and time now this this is a

2895
01:44:24,790 --> 01:44:23,280
scientist who's not a ufo guy he's just

2896
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:24,800
a physicist

2897
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:27,199
doing experimental physics in his lab up

2898
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:29,199
at cal state fullerton

2899
01:44:33,350 --> 01:44:31,520
uh he's written a book on

2900
01:44:35,510 --> 01:44:33,360
interstellar travel and you know it's

2901
01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:35,520
targets i think is what it's called

2902
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:36,480
and

2903
01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:38,320
he's just saying based on what he sees

2904
01:44:43,030 --> 01:44:40,480
in the physics of things that this

2905
01:44:44,629 --> 01:44:43,040
should be possible so if he's seeing it

2906
01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:44,639
as a possibility

2907
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:47,600
certainly somewhere in the distant past

2908
01:44:51,350 --> 01:44:49,360
either we might have discovered this

2909
01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:51,360
some small fraction on this earth might

2910
01:44:54,870 --> 01:44:52,719
have discovered this

2911
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:54,880
or certainly advanced beings a thousand

2912
01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:56,000
years a million years more advanced than

2913
01:44:59,510 --> 01:44:57,679
us have figured this out so

2914
01:45:01,109 --> 01:44:59,520
i think time travel is a distinct

2915
01:45:02,950 --> 01:45:01,119
possibility

2916
01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:02,960
i think the theory with time travel is

2917
01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:05,600
what makes it so crazy

2918
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:07,760
is that we have this

2919
01:45:11,590 --> 01:45:09,760
paradox where what if you do something

2920
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:11,600
really minor

2921
01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:13,360
to change something

2922
01:45:16,870 --> 01:45:15,199
that changes the future we can go into

2923
01:45:19,109 --> 01:45:16,880
more of those implications in a moment

2924
01:45:20,709 --> 01:45:19,119
with jan harzan of move on

2925
01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:20,719
time travel

2926
01:45:24,790 --> 01:45:22,320
so fascinating

2927
01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:24,800
gene steinberg here goggs got caught in

2928
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:26,400
traffic and

2929
01:45:39,669 --> 01:45:28,960
chris is kind of way laid this week

2930
01:45:44,430 --> 01:45:43,109
thank you for listening to gcn

2931
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:44,440
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2932
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2935
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2937
01:45:59,030 --> 01:45:56,560
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2938
01:46:01,590 --> 01:45:59,040
officer is haunted by intense dreams

2939
01:46:03,910 --> 01:46:01,600
about a beautiful woman pleading for his

2940
01:46:05,030 --> 01:46:03,920
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2941
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2942
01:46:09,109 --> 01:46:07,199
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2943
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2944
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2945
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2961
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2962
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2963
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18-wheeler traveling at a safe speed to

2964
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2965
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[Applause]

2984
01:48:02,390 --> 01:47:58,719
welcome back to the paracast the gold

2985
01:48:03,669 --> 01:48:02,400
standard of paranormal radio

2986
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:03,679
and now

2987
01:48:10,390 --> 01:48:06,970
here's gene steinberg

2988
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:12,229
continuing on time travel with jan

2989
01:48:18,709 --> 01:48:14,960
harzam so this is of course forms the

2990
01:48:21,030 --> 01:48:18,719
basis of those dc comic shows the flash

2991
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:21,040
and the legends of tomorrow where they

2992
01:48:25,669 --> 01:48:23,520
go back in time and they do something

2993
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:25,679
and that changes everything

2994
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:27,920
so that's always the danger here

2995
01:48:32,390 --> 01:48:30,480
or is a self-fulfilling prophecy

2996
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:32,400
that when you go back in time and change

2997
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:33,600
something that's because you were

2998
01:48:37,430 --> 01:48:35,360
supposed to do that

2999
01:48:38,870 --> 01:48:37,440
it brings up a very fascinating good

3000
01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:38,880
question i mean who knows what the

3001
01:48:42,709 --> 01:48:40,960
answer is but physicists will tell you

3002
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:42,719
that time doesn't really exist i mean

3003
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:45,520
our concept of time which is a very

3004
01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:47,280
linear progression

3005
01:48:52,870 --> 01:48:49,360
just doesn't exist

3006
01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:52,880
also time can loop on itself so

3007
01:48:56,629 --> 01:48:54,480
this is something that frankly makes my

3008
01:48:58,629 --> 01:48:56,639
head hurt to think about but essentially

3009
01:48:59,510 --> 01:48:58,639
yeah you can go forward and backwards in

3010
01:49:01,350 --> 01:48:59,520
time

3011
01:49:02,629 --> 01:49:01,360
remote viewing in some sense is going

3012
01:49:04,390 --> 01:49:02,639
forward in time right because you're

3013
01:49:05,350 --> 01:49:04,400
able to see events

3014
01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:05,360
and

3015
01:49:09,510 --> 01:49:07,040
talk about them that haven't happened

3016
01:49:11,350 --> 01:49:09,520
yet here's a very crazy theory you know

3017
01:49:13,830 --> 01:49:11,360
throw it out there for no reason other

3018
01:49:14,950 --> 01:49:13,840
than it's crazy and that is

3019
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:14,960
maybe

3020
01:49:19,590 --> 01:49:17,040
time manipulation is going on all the

3021
01:49:22,229 --> 01:49:19,600
time but we all have slightly different

3022
01:49:24,870 --> 01:49:22,239
senses of reality and memories said i

3023
01:49:26,550 --> 01:49:24,880
may remember something one way

3024
01:49:27,990 --> 01:49:26,560
and somebody next to me remembers it

3025
01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:28,000
totally different and you sit there and

3026
01:49:31,830 --> 01:49:29,920
argue well no you're wrong this is what

3027
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:31,840
happened no this is what happened

3028
01:49:36,629 --> 01:49:34,000
and maybe that's the problem

3029
01:49:39,189 --> 01:49:36,639
because of manipulation of the timeline

3030
01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:39,199
we do have separate memories of things

3031
01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:40,960
yeah and that that's another possibility

3032
01:49:45,510 --> 01:49:43,360
is that there are multiple timelines so

3033
01:49:46,709 --> 01:49:45,520
going back to your original hypothesis

3034
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:46,719
is what happens if you go back and

3035
01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:48,880
change something maybe all you do is you

3036
01:49:52,709 --> 01:49:50,800
start a different timeline maybe

3037
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:52,719
the one that was there before is there

3038
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:54,320
but you've got you're on now you're on a

3039
01:49:58,950 --> 01:49:56,960
different track uh going that i think

3040
01:50:00,950 --> 01:49:58,960
it's highly probable i think the

3041
01:50:03,189 --> 01:50:00,960
universe is much stranger than we quite

3042
01:50:04,629 --> 01:50:03,199
realize honestly and and this is just

3043
01:50:06,149 --> 01:50:04,639
one piece of it

3044
01:50:08,390 --> 01:50:06,159
one day we'll figure it out and know how

3045
01:50:11,270 --> 01:50:08,400
it all works but until that day it's

3046
01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:11,280
going to just look very strange to us

3047
01:50:17,750 --> 01:50:14,000
and it may just be here that

3048
01:50:19,750 --> 01:50:17,760
if our concept of time is not a solid

3049
01:50:22,470 --> 01:50:19,760
fixed reality

3050
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:22,480
that what we encounter with ufos and

3051
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:25,840
everything else is also screwed up

3052
01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:27,840
exactly there's this the

3053
01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:30,400
hypothesis put forward by the bank of

3054
01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:32,400
america finance

3055
01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:34,480
guys who do research for their

3056
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:37,119
stock part of the company where the high

3057
01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:38,480
net worth individuals and they basically

3058
01:50:41,430 --> 01:50:39,840
came out and

3059
01:50:43,350 --> 01:50:41,440
within the last six months and made a

3060
01:50:46,149 --> 01:50:43,360
statement that they think there's a 50

3061
01:50:48,629 --> 01:50:46,159
possibility or probability that we're

3062
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:48,639
living in a simulated reality

3063
01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:51,119
well and this is you know analysts from

3064
01:50:55,510 --> 01:50:53,920
bank of america saying this well at a

3065
01:50:56,950 --> 01:50:55,520
gaming conference up in northern

3066
01:50:59,189 --> 01:50:56,960
california

3067
01:51:01,590 --> 01:50:59,199
about eight weeks ago

3068
01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:01,600
elon musk was one of the panelists

3069
01:51:05,510 --> 01:51:03,040
and a reporter got up and asked the

3070
01:51:06,950 --> 01:51:05,520
question you know these bank of america

3071
01:51:08,870 --> 01:51:06,960
analysts have said that this is a

3072
01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:08,880
possibility what's your thought about it

3073
01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:11,199
and elon fought for a second and again

3074
01:51:14,229 --> 01:51:12,960
this is all on youtube you can watch it

3075
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:14,239
yourself

3076
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:16,000
and he said well

3077
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:18,320
i think there's a one

3078
01:51:24,229 --> 01:51:21,280
in one billionth chance

3079
01:51:25,510 --> 01:51:24,239
that we're not in a simulated reality

3080
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:25,520
now that was his answer basically what

3081
01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:27,440
he's saying is it's 100 certain that

3082
01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:29,040
we're in a simulated reality nothing

3083
01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:30,719
that we're seeing or doing

3084
01:51:35,270 --> 01:51:33,119
in our lives is is real we're all part

3085
01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:35,280
of like a big computer game now that

3086
01:51:37,910 --> 01:51:36,960
that's pretty mind-blowing to have a guy

3087
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:37,920
of his

3088
01:51:40,950 --> 01:51:39,040
stature

3089
01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:40,960
make that statement i don't personally

3090
01:51:43,910 --> 01:51:42,159
agree with it but maybe that's just

3091
01:51:47,109 --> 01:51:43,920
because i don't want to believe it you

3092
01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:50,709
oh that's really interesting there

3093
01:51:52,950 --> 01:51:51,440
well

3094
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:52,960
what a concept

3095
01:51:55,589 --> 01:51:54,800
yeah it makes you think you know

3096
01:51:57,510 --> 01:51:55,599
uh

3097
01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:57,520
what is reality how does it get

3098
01:52:00,950 --> 01:51:58,800
constructed

3099
01:52:02,790 --> 01:52:00,960
i'd like to believe that we from a

3100
01:52:04,629 --> 01:52:02,800
consciousness standpoint

3101
01:52:06,229 --> 01:52:04,639
give input to our reality and how it

3102
01:52:11,109 --> 01:52:06,239
gets created

3103
01:52:13,910 --> 01:52:11,990
that

3104
01:52:15,510 --> 01:52:13,920
this is all simulated and there's

3105
01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:15,520
somebody else at the controls and i'm

3106
01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:18,000
just a part of just a computer game part

3107
01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:18,880
in this

3108
01:52:25,430 --> 01:52:23,280
this virtual 3d reality game

3109
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:25,440
but i mean again

3110
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:27,520
that's been hypothesized by these bank

3111
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:30,480
of america analysts and it's uh was you

3112
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:33,119
know basically reaffirmed

3113
01:52:37,510 --> 01:52:35,920
in a much stronger way by elon musk who

3114
01:52:39,350 --> 01:52:37,520
i think is probably one of the greatest

3115
01:52:40,629 --> 01:52:39,360
minds of our our current time although

3116
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:40,639
there are a lot of detractors to him as

3117
01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:42,800
well but i i think anytime someone's

3118
01:52:47,030 --> 01:52:45,199
trying to do something take man to mars

3119
01:52:49,030 --> 01:52:47,040
build electric cars

3120
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:49,040
get the world to go solar so we're not

3121
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:50,800
using coal for energy i think that's a

3122
01:52:54,709 --> 01:52:52,080
great thing

3123
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:54,719
if only we can get our reality straight

3124
01:52:58,629 --> 01:52:57,040
yeah that's right that's right

3125
01:53:00,790 --> 01:52:58,639
only on the paracast could you get the

3126
01:53:02,310 --> 01:53:00,800
reality straight so i don't even know if

3127
01:53:04,229 --> 01:53:02,320
we can do it here

3128
01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:04,239
don't get me started let's kind of go

3129
01:53:08,790 --> 01:53:05,760
back to move fund because we can

3130
01:53:11,830 --> 01:53:08,800
speculate on this all day and mufon was

3131
01:53:12,790 --> 01:53:11,840
started what 1969 am i correct that's

3132
01:53:15,589 --> 01:53:12,800
correct

3133
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:15,599
okay all those years what do you think

3134
01:53:19,669 --> 01:53:18,159
you've learned about what's going on

3135
01:53:21,189 --> 01:53:19,679
well i think we've learned several

3136
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:21,199
things the first thing we've learned is

3137
01:53:25,830 --> 01:53:24,080
that number one ufos are real they're

3138
01:53:28,229 --> 01:53:25,840
intelligently controlled devices

3139
01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:28,239
operating in and about our planet under

3140
01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:29,760
the direction of intelligence whether

3141
01:53:34,790 --> 01:53:32,320
it's remotely done or uh

3142
01:53:36,709 --> 01:53:34,800
the intelligence is on board so ufos are

3143
01:53:38,950 --> 01:53:36,719
real there's no there's no debate about

3144
01:53:40,870 --> 01:53:38,960
whether ufos exist or not they they

3145
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:40,880
clearly exist and there's an

3146
01:53:44,790 --> 01:53:42,960
intelligence behind them

3147
01:53:46,149 --> 01:53:44,800
so that takes you to the next step which

3148
01:53:47,350 --> 01:53:46,159
is who is that intelligence what are

3149
01:53:49,430 --> 01:53:47,360
they doing now that's

3150
01:53:51,030 --> 01:53:49,440
a whole different ball game in terms of

3151
01:53:53,669 --> 01:53:51,040
figuring that out

3152
01:53:55,830 --> 01:53:53,679
number two i think

3153
01:53:58,390 --> 01:53:55,840
we definitely understand that the

3154
01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:58,400
technology that these craft display and

3155
01:54:02,149 --> 01:54:00,159
these beings display

3156
01:54:04,629 --> 01:54:02,159
uh we're talking now about telepathy and

3157
01:54:06,310 --> 01:54:04,639
the ability to move things with

3158
01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:06,320
mind and

3159
01:54:09,430 --> 01:54:08,320
psychokinesis and other types of things

3160
01:54:12,470 --> 01:54:09,440
that

3161
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:12,480
the technologies if understood and put

3162
01:54:16,950 --> 01:54:14,960
to peaceful uses on this planet could

3163
01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:16,960
have extraordinarily positive

3164
01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:19,119
implications for mankind i think that's

3165
01:54:23,990 --> 01:54:20,800
the second thing we get out of what we

3166
01:54:26,550 --> 01:54:24,000
see in the data and the third thing is

3167
01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:26,560
absolutely we need to make it safe for

3168
01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:29,040
our scientists and engineers to be able

3169
01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:31,440
to look into this subject and to study

3170
01:54:35,109 --> 01:54:32,080
it

3171
01:54:36,550 --> 01:54:35,119
uh intelligently and and in depth so

3172
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:36,560
that we can make these breakthroughs i

3173
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:38,880
mean our biggest inhibitor today

3174
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:40,560
is the laugh factor that's been

3175
01:54:44,629 --> 01:54:42,719
generated or created by our intelligence

3176
01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:44,639
and military community because they

3177
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:45,920
don't want people looking in this

3178
01:54:48,790 --> 01:54:47,119
direction

3179
01:54:52,149 --> 01:54:48,800
they want to everything they can to

3180
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:52,159
discourage it to make fun of it to

3181
01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:54,000
ruin people's lives or even try to

3182
01:54:58,629 --> 01:54:56,320
suggest that it's something there

3183
01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:58,639
and it's time that stops and that we

3184
01:55:02,390 --> 01:55:00,480
take take charge as a

3185
01:55:04,229 --> 01:55:02,400
human race and we say hey this is

3186
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:04,239
important stuff we need to understand

3187
01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:05,520
this and we need our best and our

3188
01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:06,400
brightest

3189
01:55:10,149 --> 01:55:08,480
looking into it so those three things

3190
01:55:12,070 --> 01:55:10,159
ufos are real

3191
01:55:14,310 --> 01:55:12,080
they're intelligently controlled there's

3192
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:14,320
technology that's significant to us if

3193
01:55:17,030 --> 01:55:15,520
we put it

3194
01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:17,040
our minds to figure out how it works and

3195
01:55:20,629 --> 01:55:18,880
putting it to peaceful use and we need

3196
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:20,639
to make it safe for our scientists and

3197
01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:22,560
engineers and others to study this

3198
01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:23,920
without fear of retribution in their

3199
01:55:27,270 --> 01:55:26,480
jobs without fear of you know

3200
01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:27,280
being

3201
01:55:33,270 --> 01:55:31,040
murdered threatened uh or made fun of

3202
01:55:34,629 --> 01:55:33,280
all right this is what

3203
01:55:36,790 --> 01:55:34,639
findings you have

3204
01:55:38,870 --> 01:55:36,800
to what extent can you prove this to a

3205
01:55:40,709 --> 01:55:38,880
mainstream scientist

3206
01:55:42,709 --> 01:55:40,719
well i think when you're able to sit

3207
01:55:45,109 --> 01:55:42,719
down with them and take them through the

3208
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:45,119
hard data see this is what i did when i

3209
01:55:49,990 --> 01:55:47,679
first got in charge of mufon we spent an

3210
01:55:51,910 --> 01:55:50,000
awful lot of time talking about ifos

3211
01:55:53,589 --> 01:55:51,920
and yeah 90 of our cases are probably

3212
01:55:55,430 --> 01:55:53,599
ifos if you're really

3213
01:55:57,589 --> 01:55:55,440
dig deep into them we can identify

3214
01:55:58,790 --> 01:55:57,599
what's there

3215
01:56:00,390 --> 01:55:58,800
but

3216
01:56:02,229 --> 01:56:00,400
what's important

3217
01:56:04,149 --> 01:56:02,239
is the signal

3218
01:56:06,790 --> 01:56:04,159
forget about all the noise go to the

3219
01:56:09,030 --> 01:56:06,800
signal the signal is very strong that

3220
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:09,040
these are structured craft coming from

3221
01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:10,400
someplace else with extraordinary

3222
01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:11,920
technology in them and if you can get

3223
01:56:18,070 --> 01:56:14,560
people to look at those type of cases

3224
01:56:21,030 --> 01:56:18,080
cases like 74282 in our database of a

3225
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:21,040
craft that was seen in northern canada

3226
01:56:27,990 --> 01:56:24,480
in 2013 by the ceo

3227
01:56:29,830 --> 01:56:28,000
of a major well i say major of a defense

3228
01:56:31,990 --> 01:56:29,840
contractor

3229
01:56:33,990 --> 01:56:32,000
company and a couple of his buddies who

3230
01:56:36,229 --> 01:56:34,000
he taken bear hunting up there

3231
01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:36,239
into northern canada

3232
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:38,560
i mean it is clear that there was

3233
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:40,800
something that they observed which was

3234
01:56:44,149 --> 01:56:42,480
extraordinary and they were able to

3235
01:56:46,390 --> 01:56:44,159
capture it on video

3236
01:56:48,470 --> 01:56:46,400
now the video image got wiped because of

3237
01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:48,480
the electromagnetic signal but they were

3238
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:50,080
able to capture the electromagnetic

3239
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:52,639
signature of the craft and based on that

3240
01:56:56,470 --> 01:56:54,960
he was able to ascertain and you can

3241
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:56,480
read this on our website

3242
01:57:01,910 --> 01:56:58,719
it's all free you can look at it

3243
01:57:03,270 --> 01:57:01,920
you can ascertain that it was used to

3244
01:57:06,310 --> 01:57:03,280
super

3245
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:06,320
rotating counter rotating electromagnets

3246
01:57:12,470 --> 01:57:09,280
that were causing this craft to propel

3247
01:57:14,229 --> 01:57:12,480
itself to levitate itself to move and he

3248
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:14,239
actually witnessed it moving at 25 000

3249
01:57:17,109 --> 01:57:15,599
miles an hour now how do you know that

3250
01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:17,119
well because in the blink of an eye it

3251
01:57:21,109 --> 01:57:18,960
went from where it was from him a few

3252
01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:21,119
hundred feet away to a mountain range

3253
01:57:25,430 --> 01:57:23,599
which was 25 miles away well you know

3254
01:57:27,830 --> 01:57:25,440
you figure if that was a five second

3255
01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:27,840
trip and it with 25 miles you can figure

3256
01:57:31,270 --> 01:57:29,760
out how fast it was going

3257
01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:31,280
let's do our break here

3258
01:57:36,550 --> 01:57:34,320
jan harzan joining gene steinberg he's

3259
01:57:39,030 --> 01:57:36,560
from mufon i'm from

3260
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:39,040
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3261
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having a lot of fun here talking to jan

3360
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horizon and we're looking over what he

3361
02:02:18,470 --> 02:02:17,520
considers to be the solid evidence

3362
02:02:20,390 --> 02:02:18,480
now

3363
02:02:22,390 --> 02:02:20,400
what if we're perceiving this all wrong

3364
02:02:23,830 --> 02:02:22,400
we're not seeing the actual events what

3365
02:02:25,350 --> 02:02:23,840
we measure

3366
02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:25,360
can't be correct

3367
02:02:27,910 --> 02:02:26,719
because we're not seeing what's really

3368
02:02:30,149 --> 02:02:27,920
going on

3369
02:02:32,790 --> 02:02:30,159
does that drive a little bit of a

3370
02:02:34,550 --> 02:02:32,800
hole or cause a leak in the evidence

3371
02:02:36,229 --> 02:02:34,560
imagine following what you're trying to

3372
02:02:37,910 --> 02:02:36,239
say can you can you say it a different

3373
02:02:40,470 --> 02:02:37,920
way well okay

3374
02:02:42,790 --> 02:02:40,480
so we see a ufo and appears to be flying

3375
02:02:45,030 --> 02:02:42,800
at a certain rate of speed

3376
02:02:47,430 --> 02:02:45,040
but as i said before what if this is a

3377
02:02:49,910 --> 02:02:47,440
phenomenon that's so alien to us

3378
02:02:51,510 --> 02:02:49,920
that our minds at the subconscious level

3379
02:02:53,270 --> 02:02:51,520
have to make it

3380
02:02:55,750 --> 02:02:53,280
real and practical in the way we

3381
02:02:57,990 --> 02:02:55,760
understand things so if we're not seeing

3382
02:02:59,270 --> 02:02:58,000
the actual event in the way it's

3383
02:03:01,669 --> 02:02:59,280
occurring

3384
02:03:03,189 --> 02:03:01,679
how do we measure what it does

3385
02:03:05,430 --> 02:03:03,199
that's a good point i mean how do you

3386
02:03:08,470 --> 02:03:05,440
know right and so all you can do is take

3387
02:03:10,229 --> 02:03:08,480
what you've seen and and process that

3388
02:03:11,990 --> 02:03:10,239
uh i mean there is a hypothesis out

3389
02:03:13,750 --> 02:03:12,000
there that says that this is all

3390
02:03:14,790 --> 02:03:13,760
simulated and we're basically being

3391
02:03:16,950 --> 02:03:14,800
given

3392
02:03:18,790 --> 02:03:16,960
what we might call like a theater show

3393
02:03:20,629 --> 02:03:18,800
if you will in other words

3394
02:03:21,990 --> 02:03:20,639
they're creating this in our minds and

3395
02:03:24,229 --> 02:03:22,000
we're really not seeing something

3396
02:03:26,470 --> 02:03:24,239
physical it's something that's all made

3397
02:03:27,750 --> 02:03:26,480
up inside of our minds basically a

3398
02:03:30,470 --> 02:03:27,760
reality so

3399
02:03:31,830 --> 02:03:30,480
that's certainly a possibility i i

3400
02:03:33,830 --> 02:03:31,840
would like to believe that's not true

3401
02:03:35,109 --> 02:03:33,840
but that doesn't mean it isn't true

3402
02:03:37,189 --> 02:03:35,119
yeah i mean

3403
02:03:38,310 --> 02:03:37,199
i'd have to say

3404
02:03:40,550 --> 02:03:38,320
you're right

3405
02:03:42,229 --> 02:03:40,560
it could possibly be that

3406
02:03:43,830 --> 02:03:42,239
so we have to make an assumption here

3407
02:03:46,149 --> 02:03:43,840
your assumption will go on the point of

3408
02:03:48,390 --> 02:03:46,159
reality well it looks real

3409
02:03:51,350 --> 02:03:48,400
let's assume it is and let's go on that

3410
02:03:53,510 --> 02:03:51,360
basis lacking any evidence otherwise but

3411
02:03:55,830 --> 02:03:53,520
over the years we've seen ufos

3412
02:03:58,470 --> 02:03:55,840
differently different shapes different

3413
02:04:00,070 --> 02:03:58,480
sizes possible differences in the

3414
02:04:02,790 --> 02:04:00,080
entities seen

3415
02:04:03,990 --> 02:04:02,800
in connection with that

3416
02:04:05,750 --> 02:04:04,000
so right

3417
02:04:08,550 --> 02:04:05,760
good all right

3418
02:04:11,189 --> 02:04:08,560
so is it the technology

3419
02:04:11,990 --> 02:04:11,199
of the ufo naughts whoever whatever they

3420
02:04:13,430 --> 02:04:12,000
are

3421
02:04:15,750 --> 02:04:13,440
that's responsible different

3422
02:04:18,310 --> 02:04:15,760
civilizations or

3423
02:04:19,990 --> 02:04:18,320
our perceptual limitations

3424
02:04:22,310 --> 02:04:20,000
i don't know the answer

3425
02:04:25,270 --> 02:04:22,320
honestly but i think you know if you

3426
02:04:26,550 --> 02:04:25,280
look at what we've seen over the past 60

3427
02:04:27,990 --> 02:04:26,560
70 years

3428
02:04:30,390 --> 02:04:28,000
a lot of it

3429
02:04:32,709 --> 02:04:30,400
is very consistent i mean we're seeing

3430
02:04:34,629 --> 02:04:32,719
structured craft in our skies

3431
02:04:37,350 --> 02:04:34,639
uh these triangles which most people

3432
02:04:39,510 --> 02:04:37,360
think are more of a recent phenomenon

3433
02:04:41,270 --> 02:04:39,520
actually aren't we have cases back going

3434
02:04:43,030 --> 02:04:41,280
back to the 30s of triangular shaped

3435
02:04:44,310 --> 02:04:43,040
craft being seen

3436
02:04:45,589 --> 02:04:44,320
orbs

3437
02:04:47,270 --> 02:04:45,599
although many of them

3438
02:04:49,430 --> 02:04:47,280
are misidentified because they're

3439
02:04:51,030 --> 02:04:49,440
chinese lanterns or something else but

3440
02:04:53,589 --> 02:04:51,040
orbs do exist

3441
02:04:55,430 --> 02:04:53,599
i've witnessed one myself i know another

3442
02:04:57,270 --> 02:04:55,440
real i know how to tell the difference

3443
02:04:59,750 --> 02:04:57,280
between an orb and a

3444
02:05:01,189 --> 02:04:59,760
chinese lantern but these lights you

3445
02:05:03,750 --> 02:05:01,199
know going back to the foo fighters of

3446
02:05:05,510 --> 02:05:03,760
the early 40s back in world war ii

3447
02:05:07,669 --> 02:05:05,520
these same balls of light that follow

3448
02:05:09,990 --> 02:05:07,679
our our airliners today

3449
02:05:11,750 --> 02:05:10,000
we get reports occasionally of these

3450
02:05:12,550 --> 02:05:11,760
and photographs of these balls of light

3451
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:12,560
falling

3452
02:05:15,109 --> 02:05:14,320
these are some kind of intelligence that

3453
02:05:16,870 --> 02:05:15,119
that

3454
02:05:18,310 --> 02:05:16,880
exists on this planet

3455
02:05:20,790 --> 02:05:18,320
whether it came from someplace else or

3456
02:05:22,709 --> 02:05:20,800
it's always been here uh that we're

3457
02:05:25,189 --> 02:05:22,719
we're continuing to see

3458
02:05:27,350 --> 02:05:25,199
over the same stretch of time you know

3459
02:05:28,950 --> 02:05:27,360
the 70 years of the modern age of

3460
02:05:30,709 --> 02:05:28,960
ufology so

3461
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:30,719
i know i'd like to believe that that

3462
02:05:35,030 --> 02:05:32,480
we're seeing things in our own current

3463
02:05:37,350 --> 02:05:35,040
state of reality as opposed to this is

3464
02:05:39,669 --> 02:05:37,360
all made up and you're being fed this

3465
02:05:42,070 --> 02:05:39,679
through some kind of a simulated

3466
02:05:43,189 --> 02:05:42,080
environment but that's me

3467
02:05:45,589 --> 02:05:43,199
but how do you account for the

3468
02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:45,599
differences in the type of craft

3469
02:05:48,390 --> 02:05:46,800
how do you account for the differences

3470
02:05:50,950 --> 02:05:48,400
in the type of creatures just so many

3471
02:05:53,030 --> 02:05:50,960
different varieties just like i might

3472
02:05:54,950 --> 02:05:53,040
have a volkswagen and you have

3473
02:05:56,070 --> 02:05:54,960
a ford pickup truck that's the

3474
02:05:57,830 --> 02:05:56,080
difference

3475
02:05:59,189 --> 02:05:57,840
so so that's what i would say i mean i

3476
02:06:00,470 --> 02:05:59,199
just take our own planet you're driving

3477
02:06:02,149 --> 02:06:00,480
down the freeway

3478
02:06:03,990 --> 02:06:02,159
how many cars do you see they're exactly

3479
02:06:05,750 --> 02:06:04,000
alike unless they're priuses which seem

3480
02:06:07,430 --> 02:06:05,760
to be everywhere but you're in la of

3481
02:06:09,830 --> 02:06:07,440
course so everybody has a prius where

3482
02:06:12,229 --> 02:06:09,840
you live but the other thing is here

3483
02:06:14,229 --> 02:06:12,239
there's a phenomenon here which is just

3484
02:06:16,550 --> 02:06:14,239
psychological that when you have a

3485
02:06:17,350 --> 02:06:16,560
certain brand of car you see more of

3486
02:06:18,550 --> 02:06:17,360
them

3487
02:06:19,830 --> 02:06:18,560
on the road

3488
02:06:21,669 --> 02:06:19,840
yeah that's true

3489
02:06:23,589 --> 02:06:21,679
it's called synchronicity i think i mean

3490
02:06:26,390 --> 02:06:23,599
it's where you because you're aware of

3491
02:06:28,709 --> 02:06:26,400
it you start noticing it it's like i'll

3492
02:06:29,990 --> 02:06:28,719
see a word for the first time used

3493
02:06:32,310 --> 02:06:30,000
and the next thing i know i'm seeing it

3494
02:06:34,310 --> 02:06:32,320
everywhere i i read as a that word shows

3495
02:06:36,629 --> 02:06:34,320
up so um

3496
02:06:38,149 --> 02:06:36,639
but i was just saying you know that

3497
02:06:40,870 --> 02:06:38,159
these different shapes and sizes of

3498
02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:40,880
craft i just look at how many different

3499
02:06:44,229 --> 02:06:42,800
car companies are there on our planet

3500
02:06:45,750 --> 02:06:44,239
and how many different styles of car

3501
02:06:47,109 --> 02:06:45,760
even within one car cup the ford motor

3502
02:06:49,830 --> 02:06:47,119
company they've got you know 12

3503
02:06:51,669 --> 02:06:49,840
different kinds of cars and it might be

3504
02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:51,679
the same way in these spacecraft of

3505
02:06:56,470 --> 02:06:53,440
course if you're coming from multiple

3506
02:06:57,990 --> 02:06:56,480
civilizations it would be normal that

3507
02:07:00,790 --> 02:06:58,000
two different civilizations would have

3508
02:07:02,550 --> 02:07:00,800
built the exact same looking type craft

3509
02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:02,560
and then within those craft why wouldn't

3510
02:07:08,069 --> 02:07:05,199
you have a sport model and a

3511
02:07:10,149 --> 02:07:08,079
a battle cruiser and a landing craft and

3512
02:07:12,550 --> 02:07:10,159
i mean you would expect to see different

3513
02:07:15,430 --> 02:07:12,560
kinds of things so i don't see anything

3514
02:07:17,990 --> 02:07:15,440
too unusual in that and we do see common

3515
02:07:20,870 --> 02:07:18,000
shapes i mean we see you know triangular

3516
02:07:23,109 --> 02:07:20,880
shapes we see a disc shape

3517
02:07:25,030 --> 02:07:23,119
uh egg-shaped uh the graph does come up

3518
02:07:26,870 --> 02:07:25,040
quite a bit star-shaped

3519
02:07:29,750 --> 02:07:26,880
and then also the beings i mean just

3520
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:29,760
look at if you took someone from africa

3521
02:07:33,510 --> 02:07:30,960
and put them next to someone from europe

3522
02:07:35,510 --> 02:07:33,520
put them next to someone from asia

3523
02:07:36,550 --> 02:07:35,520
if you were from someplace else

3524
02:07:38,229 --> 02:07:36,560
you might

3525
02:07:39,350 --> 02:07:38,239
think they're all they're all different

3526
02:07:40,950 --> 02:07:39,360
that they really don't have anything in

3527
02:07:41,910 --> 02:07:40,960
common yet they're all human beings

3528
02:07:43,189 --> 02:07:41,920
right

3529
02:07:45,350 --> 02:07:43,199
we have all

3530
02:07:47,189 --> 02:07:45,360
sizes and everything else so we have fat

3531
02:07:49,589 --> 02:07:47,199
people and we have thin people we can go

3532
02:07:51,189 --> 02:07:49,599
into yeah point taken okay let me ask

3533
02:07:55,109 --> 02:07:51,199
you about some of the anomalous stuff

3534
02:07:57,030 --> 02:07:55,119
like for example the 1897 airships

3535
02:07:58,390 --> 02:07:57,040
dirigible type things now we were

3536
02:08:00,790 --> 02:07:58,400
testing

3537
02:08:02,390 --> 02:08:00,800
the original type craft during the 19th

3538
02:08:03,350 --> 02:08:02,400
century so is it possible some of these

3539
02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:03,360
stories

3540
02:08:06,790 --> 02:08:05,360
not of course the ones that obviously

3541
02:08:08,950 --> 02:08:06,800
were made up by

3542
02:08:10,870 --> 02:08:08,960
newspapers trying to gain circulation

3543
02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:10,880
but the stuff that's still out there

3544
02:08:14,790 --> 02:08:13,280
maybe that was it it was just somebody

3545
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inventing something

3546
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and

3547
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doing a test flight

3548
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well i just don't think you'd get a

3549
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newspaper to write something that they

3550
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didn't feel was true because it would

3551
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:25,599
it would impact their credibility with

3552
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you got to realize communities back in

3553
02:08:30,069 --> 02:08:28,719
those days were very small everybody

3554
02:08:31,270 --> 02:08:30,079
knew everybody else

3555
02:08:33,270 --> 02:08:31,280
so if you were going to put something

3556
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out that was wasn't true it wouldn't

3557
02:08:36,629 --> 02:08:35,119
take long for the people in the

3558
02:08:38,950 --> 02:08:36,639
community to know

3559
02:08:40,790 --> 02:08:38,960
that that was a falsehood and you were

3560
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perpetrating it and they would pretty

3561
02:08:44,149 --> 02:08:42,400
much lose faith in

3562
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you as an individual or you as a company

3563
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or you as a

3564
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publishing house so

3565
02:08:49,669 --> 02:08:48,480
i think it's

3566
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probably

3567
02:08:54,709 --> 02:08:52,400
not likely that that was the case

3568
02:08:56,229 --> 02:08:54,719
um now could things be misidentified

3569
02:08:57,910 --> 02:08:56,239
yeah i mean could there be a dirigible

3570
02:08:59,430 --> 02:08:57,920
and someone saw dirigible and they they

3571
02:09:01,510 --> 02:08:59,440
had never seen one before so therefore

3572
02:09:03,750 --> 02:09:01,520
they thought it was a flying saucer from

3573
02:09:05,109 --> 02:09:03,760
someplace else that's possible but i

3574
02:09:06,870 --> 02:09:05,119
don't even think back in those days that

3575
02:09:09,109 --> 02:09:06,880
the dirigibles existed i don't i think

3576
02:09:09,990 --> 02:09:09,119
the balloons came along much later than

3577
02:09:11,350 --> 02:09:10,000
that

3578
02:09:13,350 --> 02:09:11,360
we i think we had balloons but we didn't

3579
02:09:14,870 --> 02:09:13,360
have actual dirigibles i'd have to go

3580
02:09:16,390 --> 02:09:14,880
look at the research on that but i

3581
02:09:18,790 --> 02:09:16,400
believe that's the case

3582
02:09:20,790 --> 02:09:18,800
and then of course um why would you take

3583
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the time to go bury a body

3584
02:09:25,270 --> 02:09:22,800
and put a marker on it that has that

3585
02:09:27,189 --> 02:09:25,280
kind of information

3586
02:09:28,629 --> 02:09:27,199
i just don't see it being that that

3587
02:09:30,069 --> 02:09:28,639
funny i mean

3588
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again these communities are very small

3589
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my mother-in-law grew up in a community

3590
02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:34,079
of less than 500 people in swash

3591
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colorado which is in the san luis valley

3592
02:09:40,149 --> 02:09:38,880
it's where she met her husband and

3593
02:09:41,510 --> 02:09:40,159
married him and

3594
02:09:43,270 --> 02:09:41,520
they had my wife

3595
02:09:45,430 --> 02:09:43,280
but it was a very tiny community and we

3596
02:09:47,430 --> 02:09:45,440
went back and visited it they have the

3597
02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:47,440
distinction of having the world's at

3598
02:09:51,990 --> 02:09:50,000
least the united states is only uh

3599
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printing press that's the old typeset

3600
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kind and they publish a weekly newspaper

3601
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and send it out to all the

3602
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people who've lived there

3603
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past and present who've pay for a

3604
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subscription to it

3605
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but i mean you look at that tiny of a

3606
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community

3607
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everybody knows each other it's

3608
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everybody's business is well known um

3609
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i don't know what

3610
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what kfa they would get out of

3611
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making something like this up

3612
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because they're not tricking anybody

3613
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that everybody knows everybody else so

3614
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i just think it's highly unlikely that

3615
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that happened

3616
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we have gene steinberg we have a later

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so dogs makai finally showed up were you

3732
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stuck in traffic or something well i was

3733
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stuck with work but out in the the kind

3734
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of grampian highlands um near where the

3735
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queen has her kind of summer residence

3736
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and there's no signal up in that area

3737
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for a lot of things so just couldn't be

3738
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helped

3739
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you're here now and we have jan horizon

3740
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so jan meek goggs

3741
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hi dogs yeah i was stuck out the road in

3742
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an area of no signal and um in the kind

3743
02:15:43,589 --> 02:15:41,119
of north east highlands uh just for work

3744
02:15:46,390 --> 02:15:43,599
couldn't be helped but um glad to be

3745
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here and see meet john harzan for the

3746
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first time hi john

3747
02:15:52,310 --> 02:15:50,800
how you doing good to meet you as well

3748
02:15:53,430 --> 02:15:52,320
now we don't want to cover ground we've

3749
02:15:55,750 --> 02:15:53,440
already covered

3750
02:15:57,910 --> 02:15:55,760
but maybe you want to ask a couple of

3751
02:15:59,189 --> 02:15:57,920
questions of jan to further the

3752
02:16:01,350 --> 02:15:59,199
discussion like i said we've gone

3753
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through disclosure we've gone through

3754
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technology we've gone through roswell

3755
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with the government may or may not know

3756
02:16:08,870 --> 02:16:06,560
that kind of thing but what would you

3757
02:16:11,510 --> 02:16:08,880
like to ask i've got something well i

3758
02:16:13,510 --> 02:16:11,520
was gonna ask john what we were talking

3759
02:16:16,310 --> 02:16:13,520
about with bob the other night how how

3760
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what is mew fund what could can mufon be

3761
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doing to get more younger people

3762
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interested in ufos

3763
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well i think the one thing we could do

3764
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is to transform some of the things we're

3765
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currently doing we just

3766
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revamped our

3767
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mufon journal after probably 30 years of

3768
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putting out in a certain format and we

3769
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think that's going to appeal well to

3770
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kids who

3771
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like to look at things on their phones

3772
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or on their

3773
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tablets

3774
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it's a much much easier to read document

3775
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has all the same information and it's

3776
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just completely been redone

3777
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using a professional publishing house

3778
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and then

3779
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i think we need to

3780
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get them excited get them educated about

3781
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this because what i find when i talk on

3782
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school campuses

3783
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about the subject is there's a total

3784
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ignorance about the historical

3785
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what has happened in this field and i

3786
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think even though they'll

3787
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all say absolutely the extraterrestrials

3788
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must exist they have no background

3789
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in what's going on on a daily basis on

3790
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this planet it's it's so well hidden

3791
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from them and then of course they do

3792
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everything on their phone right it's all

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done through

3794
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instagram and twitter and

3795
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uh

3796
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to a lesser extent facebook for many of

3797
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them these days that seems to be now

3798
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grandma's uh playground for keeping

3799
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track of the grandkids but uh

3800
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you know we have to talk to them at

3801
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their level and uh using their

3802
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technology and uh make it exciting for

3803
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because i mean this what could be more

3804
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exciting than dealing with people from

3805
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out there john john i'm sure you've

3806
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noticed yourself like over the last few

3807
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years the preponderance of paranormal

3808
02:17:58,950 --> 02:17:54,800
themed tv shows reality shows most with

3809
02:18:02,150 --> 02:17:58,960
a kind of ghost um slant to them uh what

3810
02:18:03,190 --> 02:18:02,160
do you think about the fact that maybe

3811
02:18:08,790 --> 02:18:03,200
if

3812
02:18:13,190 --> 02:18:08,800
at

3813
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:13,200
terms of

3814
02:18:18,070 --> 02:18:15,679
let's let's let's get the people who

3815
02:18:21,030 --> 02:18:18,080
maybe are just interested in watching

3816
02:18:22,070 --> 02:18:21,040
stuff about ghosts and ghost hunting on

3817
02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:22,080
tv

3818
02:18:28,150 --> 02:18:25,439
and get them kind of maybe into ufology

3819
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:28,160
sideways because there's a huge captive

3820
02:18:32,870 --> 02:18:30,880
audience for these paranormal shows the

3821
02:18:34,389 --> 02:18:32,880
ghost ones on tv

3822
02:18:36,709 --> 02:18:34,399
and there are

3823
02:18:38,469 --> 02:18:36,719
lots of young viewers who do watch this

3824
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:38,479
kind of stuff on youtube

3825
02:18:43,750 --> 02:18:40,960
maybe on terrestrial tv as well

3826
02:18:46,790 --> 02:18:43,760
and these younger people who like would

3827
02:18:49,110 --> 02:18:46,800
not be going to a ufo conference maybe

3828
02:18:51,270 --> 02:18:49,120
don't listen to shows like the paracast

3829
02:18:53,990 --> 02:18:51,280
but i think they could probably get into

3830
02:18:56,950 --> 02:18:54,000
it and sometimes i wonder as well with

3831
02:18:59,509 --> 02:18:56,960
young people today because of the

3832
02:19:00,870 --> 02:18:59,519
like the the idea the meme of a grey

3833
02:19:01,669 --> 02:19:00,880
alien and stuff

3834
02:19:03,669 --> 02:19:01,679
all

3835
02:19:06,870 --> 02:19:03,679
for the last 40 years a lot of people

3836
02:19:09,349 --> 02:19:06,880
got into ufology because it's like

3837
02:19:11,669 --> 02:19:09,359
is it real are ufos real this kind of

3838
02:19:13,830 --> 02:19:11,679
finding out i think maybe millennials

3839
02:19:14,790 --> 02:19:13,840
people born you know in the last 20

3840
02:19:17,589 --> 02:19:14,800
years

3841
02:19:19,750 --> 02:19:17,599
they're almost from day one accepting

3842
02:19:22,150 --> 02:19:19,760
that you know there is extraterrestrial

3843
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:22,160
life so to them it's maybe not such a

3844
02:19:26,549 --> 02:19:24,639
process of discovery and will we find

3845
02:19:28,790 --> 02:19:26,559
out the answer or not i think maybe a

3846
02:19:31,110 --> 02:19:28,800
lot of young people are not kind of

3847
02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:31,120
outwardly interested but they've already

3848
02:19:35,750 --> 02:19:33,040
kind of accepted it

3849
02:19:37,190 --> 02:19:35,760
you know the the ufo reality already so

3850
02:19:39,030 --> 02:19:37,200
they don't see the point in kind of

3851
02:19:42,150 --> 02:19:39,040
wasting time trying to prove something

3852
02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:42,160
they think exists already

3853
02:19:45,349 --> 02:19:43,439
i would agree i would agree with you i

3854
02:19:47,750 --> 02:19:45,359
think i think that's exactly where they

3855
02:19:48,710 --> 02:19:47,760
are i mean you watch television and you

3856
02:19:50,309 --> 02:19:48,720
you know

3857
02:19:51,510 --> 02:19:50,319
i think that they're they're like of

3858
02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:51,520
course there's probably other people out

3859
02:19:54,309 --> 02:19:52,800
there i don't even think they give a

3860
02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:54,319
second thought you know

3861
02:19:59,030 --> 02:19:56,080
going back 60

3862
02:20:01,030 --> 02:19:59,040
plus years ago in world war ii i mean we

3863
02:20:03,030 --> 02:20:01,040
lived in the mayberry rfd kind of an era

3864
02:20:04,469 --> 02:20:03,040
where

3865
02:20:06,309 --> 02:20:04,479
people were just basically struggling to

3866
02:20:09,110 --> 02:20:06,319
survive i think the other thing too is

3867
02:20:13,590 --> 02:20:10,389
don't have

3868
02:20:15,349 --> 02:20:13,600
to struggle

3869
02:20:17,510 --> 02:20:15,359
like our parents did

3870
02:20:19,990 --> 02:20:17,520
to make ends meet or maybe even many of

3871
02:20:21,830 --> 02:20:20,000
us had to struggle to to get through

3872
02:20:23,750 --> 02:20:21,840
life

3873
02:20:25,670 --> 02:20:23,760
they're born into a time where where

3874
02:20:27,750 --> 02:20:25,680
things are much easier for them where

3875
02:20:29,750 --> 02:20:27,760
information is fully free flowing for

3876
02:20:31,990 --> 02:20:29,760
them where there's opportunities for

3877
02:20:33,990 --> 02:20:32,000
them not maybe not as much anymore but

3878
02:20:35,830 --> 02:20:34,000
but you know that they're they're

3879
02:20:38,070 --> 02:20:35,840
they're able to see this stuff and

3880
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:38,080
process it much quicker and i think kids

3881
02:20:43,830 --> 02:20:39,760
are growing up much faster today i think

3882
02:20:46,230 --> 02:20:43,840
you know a 13 14 15 year old kid today

3883
02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:46,240
is eons ahead of where a 14

3884
02:20:52,630 --> 02:20:49,680
15 year old kid was 30 40 years ago

3885
02:20:53,990 --> 02:20:52,640
so um i think i think they're open to

3886
02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:54,000
the possibility i don't think they're

3887
02:20:57,270 --> 02:20:55,040
going to spend a whole lot of time

3888
02:20:58,710 --> 02:20:57,280
worrying about it one way or the other

3889
02:21:00,790 --> 02:20:58,720
the question is how do we engage them

3890
02:21:01,429 --> 02:21:00,800
and get them to be actively involved in

3891
02:21:03,429 --> 02:21:01,439
it

3892
02:21:05,429 --> 02:21:03,439
as many of us are

3893
02:21:06,469 --> 02:21:05,439
i suppose another point to think of is

3894
02:21:11,110 --> 02:21:06,479
that

3895
02:21:13,190 --> 02:21:11,120
to say young people 30 40 50 years ago

3896
02:21:15,750 --> 02:21:13,200
the the kind of

3897
02:21:18,790 --> 02:21:15,760
any photos or film footage they were

3898
02:21:22,070 --> 02:21:18,800
exposed to of ufos

3899
02:21:24,150 --> 02:21:22,080
probably very little of that was uh out

3900
02:21:26,469 --> 02:21:24,160
in outright hoaxes

3901
02:21:29,349 --> 02:21:26,479
um or you know maybe some are but they

3902
02:21:31,190 --> 02:21:29,359
don't know but but these days

3903
02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:31,200
i would imagine that anyone kind of

3904
02:21:37,910 --> 02:21:33,760
giving a casual glance onto youtube or

3905
02:21:39,670 --> 02:21:37,920
whatever typing ufo into google whatever

3906
02:21:41,510 --> 02:21:39,680
probably 95

3907
02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:41,520
of what they will see

3908
02:21:47,670 --> 02:21:45,520
easily is all fake stuff cgi

3909
02:21:49,349 --> 02:21:47,680
created by these i'm not going to name

3910
02:21:51,270 --> 02:21:49,359
them but there are certain channels on

3911
02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:51,280
youtube that just

3912
02:21:57,349 --> 02:21:54,560
you know just almost fully carry very

3913
02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:57,359
well done but hoax videos trying to

3914
02:22:00,070 --> 02:21:59,120
make off that they're real

3915
02:22:02,150 --> 02:22:00,080
and

3916
02:22:05,429 --> 02:22:02,160
i can imagine that

3917
02:22:05,790 --> 02:22:05,439
people now maybe a bit disheartened by

3918
02:22:07,270 --> 02:22:05,800
um

3919
02:22:09,510 --> 02:22:07,280
[Music]

3920
02:22:11,590 --> 02:22:09,520
just all this fakery out there i think

3921
02:22:14,950 --> 02:22:11,600
probably in the early 70s say if you

3922
02:22:17,030 --> 02:22:14,960
bought a ufo book the photos in it

3923
02:22:19,429 --> 02:22:17,040
probably none of them were deliberate

3924
02:22:22,070 --> 02:22:19,439
hoaxes maybe misidentification

3925
02:22:23,349 --> 02:22:22,080
but now most of the stuff visual media

3926
02:22:25,349 --> 02:22:23,359
out there is

3927
02:22:27,590 --> 02:22:25,359
outright fake

3928
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:27,600
yeah and we we get that but you know

3929
02:22:32,469 --> 02:22:30,160
honestly uh of all of our cases you know

3930
02:22:33,990 --> 02:22:32,479
maybe 10 000 cases a year we get

3931
02:22:36,550 --> 02:22:34,000
only two or three or

3932
02:22:38,550 --> 02:22:36,560
maybe four percent are when we really

3933
02:22:40,469 --> 02:22:38,560
investigate them turn out to be hoaxes

3934
02:22:42,469 --> 02:22:40,479
and not all of those have video or

3935
02:22:44,550 --> 02:22:42,479
photos attached to it so yeah the good

3936
02:22:45,670 --> 02:22:44,560
news is these digital cameras do

3937
02:22:47,110 --> 02:22:45,680
actually capture a lot of the

3938
02:22:49,030 --> 02:22:47,120
information and so

3939
02:22:50,950 --> 02:22:49,040
when you look at the exit data on some

3940
02:22:52,950 --> 02:22:50,960
of these photographs you can see that

3941
02:22:55,030 --> 02:22:52,960
although the person may allege that the

3942
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:55,040
three photos were taken within minutes

3943
02:22:58,309 --> 02:22:56,399
of each other you can see one was taken

3944
02:23:00,309 --> 02:22:58,319
on a different day

3945
02:23:02,469 --> 02:23:00,319
so it pretty much blows that story out

3946
02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:02,479
of the water we do our best to kind of

3947
02:23:06,150 --> 02:23:04,479
cull through that stuff and try to check

3948
02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:06,160
on it make sure it's what's being

3949
02:23:09,830 --> 02:23:08,160
purported to be true and if it's not

3950
02:23:12,150 --> 02:23:09,840
purported to be if it's not true what's

3951
02:23:13,510 --> 02:23:12,160
being told is we question

3952
02:23:15,830 --> 02:23:13,520
why are you telling us something that's

3953
02:23:18,550 --> 02:23:15,840
not true and go back to

3954
02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:18,560
confront the witness so we're doing our

3955
02:23:22,950 --> 02:23:21,280
best as an organization to

3956
02:23:26,389 --> 02:23:22,960
keep as much of the

3957
02:23:27,910 --> 02:23:26,399
fakery out of the equation unfortunately

3958
02:23:30,150 --> 02:23:27,920
most other people don't do that they

3959
02:23:32,469 --> 02:23:30,160
they post things on their sites they

3960
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:32,479
are looking for the latest viral video

3961
02:23:35,590 --> 02:23:34,240
that they can go make money off of

3962
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:35,600
youtube ads

3963
02:23:38,389 --> 02:23:37,680
and there's not a whole lot of vetting

3964
02:23:43,110 --> 02:23:38,399
of

3965
02:23:44,550 --> 02:23:43,120
different

3966
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:44,560
uh where we're trying to set ourselves

3967
02:23:48,790 --> 02:23:46,960
apart not to be haughty about it but but

3968
02:23:50,309 --> 02:23:48,800
i mean it's important that when you're

3969
02:23:51,830 --> 02:23:50,319
talking about such an important subject

3970
02:23:53,750 --> 02:23:51,840
that you know you're talking factually

3971
02:23:55,429 --> 02:23:53,760
about it to the greatest extent that you

3972
02:23:56,469 --> 02:23:55,439
can and gina and i have already talked

3973
02:23:58,389 --> 02:23:56,479
about well how do you know you're not

3974
02:24:00,469 --> 02:23:58,399
being part of a greater simulated

3975
02:24:02,469 --> 02:24:00,479
reality or that we're just the way we

3976
02:24:03,429 --> 02:24:02,479
perceive things but in factuality we we

3977
02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:03,439
do see

3978
02:24:11,830 --> 02:24:09,200
they're being reported all over the

3979
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place by very credible people so we know

3980
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something's going on we have goggs makai

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we accept his excuse we have jan harzan

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to the paracast

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so it comes down to this really fast

4102
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breezy session with jan harzan of mufon

4103
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before we let him go today he'll give

4104
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you complete details on how you can

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become a member as he says it starts at

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499 a month

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just like the power cast plus is 4.99 a

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month and i'll tell you what you get for

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that and what the options are in just a

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few moments so of course get your pen

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paper ipad iphone

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mac or pc to write the thing down i

4113
02:29:44,070 --> 02:29:41,040
wonder how many people out there

4114
02:29:46,389 --> 02:29:44,080
actually write with pen and paper i do i

4115
02:29:48,070 --> 02:29:46,399
still take old-fashioned notes that ages

4116
02:29:51,190 --> 02:29:48,080
me in ways that we can't

4117
02:29:52,710 --> 02:29:51,200
jen we kind of hit this before and i

4118
02:29:55,270 --> 02:29:52,720
didn't get into the second part of the

4119
02:29:57,590 --> 02:29:55,280
question which is about interviewing

4120
02:29:58,630 --> 02:29:57,600
people and looking at their backgrounds

4121
02:30:00,870 --> 02:29:58,640
have you

4122
02:30:01,750 --> 02:30:00,880
taken time to see whether

4123
02:30:04,950 --> 02:30:01,760
people

4124
02:30:07,750 --> 02:30:04,960
who do report ufos have had experiences

4125
02:30:10,150 --> 02:30:07,760
of other things ghosts bigfoot other

4126
02:30:11,990 --> 02:30:10,160
so-called paranormal events it's not

4127
02:30:13,670 --> 02:30:12,000
something that's part of the normal

4128
02:30:15,429 --> 02:30:13,680
investigative process but it generally

4129
02:30:17,030 --> 02:30:15,439
does come up because what they'll say is

4130
02:30:19,030 --> 02:30:17,040
i've had these other experiences i'd

4131
02:30:21,510 --> 02:30:19,040
like to talk to you about we try to for

4132
02:30:24,309 --> 02:30:21,520
the purposes of a given ufo report keep

4133
02:30:25,750 --> 02:30:24,319
it to that specific event and then if

4134
02:30:27,910 --> 02:30:25,760
they have multiple events we'll try to

4135
02:30:29,990 --> 02:30:27,920
do those as separate then we basically

4136
02:30:32,309 --> 02:30:30,000
connect them so that we know that

4137
02:30:34,309 --> 02:30:32,319
these events might be connected the

4138
02:30:36,389 --> 02:30:34,319
answer is yeah we look into it

4139
02:30:39,030 --> 02:30:36,399
when when investigators are

4140
02:30:41,990 --> 02:30:39,040
investigating a case i presume you have

4141
02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:42,000
kind of pre-printed forms for you know

4142
02:30:46,309 --> 02:30:44,080
you know information to be filled in do

4143
02:30:49,830 --> 02:30:46,319
you ever record any information about

4144
02:30:52,790 --> 02:30:49,840
any smells that people may experience we

4145
02:30:53,990 --> 02:30:52,800
had a joshua kitchen on the other week

4146
02:30:55,429 --> 02:30:54,000
who's done

4147
02:30:58,070 --> 02:30:55,439
books in this kind of area the

4148
02:31:00,630 --> 02:30:58,080
paranormal and kind of smells is there

4149
02:31:02,710 --> 02:31:00,640
anything in a mufon investigation

4150
02:31:03,830 --> 02:31:02,720
that takes account of

4151
02:31:06,230 --> 02:31:03,840
smells

4152
02:31:08,070 --> 02:31:06,240
well only in the standpoint that they

4153
02:31:10,870 --> 02:31:08,080
want to tell about what we what we

4154
02:31:13,830 --> 02:31:10,880
typically capture are the specs on the

4155
02:31:15,590 --> 02:31:13,840
craft or the actual event that occurred

4156
02:31:17,750 --> 02:31:15,600
in terms of you know

4157
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:17,760
shapes size color

4158
02:31:21,670 --> 02:31:19,840
sounds were there any kind of super

4159
02:31:24,870 --> 02:31:21,680
structures on the craft

4160
02:31:27,110 --> 02:31:24,880
domes you know antenna other things was

4161
02:31:29,190 --> 02:31:27,120
it making any noise what type of noise

4162
02:31:30,950 --> 02:31:29,200
was it making uh were there any entities

4163
02:31:33,270 --> 02:31:30,960
seen what did those entities look like

4164
02:31:35,429 --> 02:31:33,280
what what did they say what did they do

4165
02:31:36,870 --> 02:31:35,439
smell i don't believe is an actual

4166
02:31:38,150 --> 02:31:36,880
question that we ask

4167
02:31:39,830 --> 02:31:38,160
but it's certainly something that would

4168
02:31:41,510 --> 02:31:39,840
be captured if the because if it was

4169
02:31:43,349 --> 02:31:41,520
something that was extraordinary the

4170
02:31:45,750 --> 02:31:43,359
witness would say you know by the way i

4171
02:31:48,950 --> 02:31:45,760
had this smell that would be captured in

4172
02:31:51,110 --> 02:31:48,960
just the general text of the description

4173
02:31:53,110 --> 02:31:51,120
of the sighting but it's not a data

4174
02:31:55,030 --> 02:31:53,120
point that we actually have called out

4175
02:31:56,950 --> 02:31:55,040
that you click on here says there was a

4176
02:31:58,870 --> 02:31:56,960
smell there wasn't a smell or the smell

4177
02:32:00,950 --> 02:31:58,880
was the odor of sulfur the smell was the

4178
02:32:03,349 --> 02:32:00,960
odor of coal or whatever

4179
02:32:05,429 --> 02:32:03,359
that is not part of the actual database

4180
02:32:06,870 --> 02:32:05,439
sure but if but if they did have

4181
02:32:09,349 --> 02:32:06,880
something and they mentioned it it would

4182
02:32:11,990 --> 02:32:09,359
get captured that way yeah but not to

4183
02:32:13,510 --> 02:32:12,000
tell you how to do your work but because

4184
02:32:15,349 --> 02:32:13,520
this is happening occasionally in

4185
02:32:17,429 --> 02:32:15,359
connection with paranormal events

4186
02:32:18,790 --> 02:32:17,439
wouldn't that be worth asking as a

4187
02:32:21,750 --> 02:32:18,800
matter of course because people are not

4188
02:32:23,030 --> 02:32:21,760
going to remember every detail yeah well

4189
02:32:24,550 --> 02:32:23,040
it's certainly something we can look

4190
02:32:26,870 --> 02:32:24,560
into it's not a difficult thing to

4191
02:32:28,309 --> 02:32:26,880
create another data point for a database

4192
02:32:30,070 --> 02:32:28,319
i might just go in there today after

4193
02:32:31,590 --> 02:32:30,080
this call and just look and see how many

4194
02:32:33,510 --> 02:32:31,600
people have ever put the word smell in

4195
02:32:35,510 --> 02:32:33,520
there and if it's a significant number

4196
02:32:36,870 --> 02:32:35,520
of cases here's one example i mean my

4197
02:32:38,150 --> 02:32:36,880
director of research came to us the

4198
02:32:40,070 --> 02:32:38,160
other day and said we have this

4199
02:32:41,910 --> 02:32:40,080
interesting case up in canada and it's

4200
02:32:43,670 --> 02:32:41,920
shaped like a dumbbell barbell whatever

4201
02:32:44,870 --> 02:32:43,680
you want to call it it's got a ball at

4202
02:32:47,750 --> 02:32:44,880
one end a ball at the other and it's

4203
02:32:50,469 --> 02:32:47,760
connected by a handle there's no data

4204
02:32:52,630 --> 02:32:50,479
point that says under shape it says

4205
02:32:54,710 --> 02:32:52,640
dumbbell or barbell we only have a

4206
02:32:56,469 --> 02:32:54,720
handful of cases so out of 100 000 cases

4207
02:32:58,309 --> 02:32:56,479
we only have like three does it make

4208
02:33:00,389 --> 02:32:58,319
sense to go put that in as a data point

4209
02:33:02,150 --> 02:33:00,399
or is it's already in there in the

4210
02:33:03,910 --> 02:33:02,160
narrative so yeah we can go look at that

4211
02:33:05,590 --> 02:33:03,920
and i'll certainly make a note here to

4212
02:33:07,429 --> 02:33:05,600
go explore that thank you for bringing

4213
02:33:08,870 --> 02:33:07,439
it up the reason i mention this at all

4214
02:33:11,750 --> 02:33:08,880
is because this may be the kind of

4215
02:33:13,349 --> 02:33:11,760
detail that people may not even think of

4216
02:33:15,830 --> 02:33:13,359
unless they are asked and that might be

4217
02:33:18,070 --> 02:33:15,840
the key thing here is to when you devise

4218
02:33:20,230 --> 02:33:18,080
your questionnaires look at things that

4219
02:33:22,550 --> 02:33:20,240
people mention and see you know what

4220
02:33:26,710 --> 02:33:22,560
maybe we should be more proactive on

4221
02:33:30,550 --> 02:33:26,720
this perhaps someone who is resolutely

4222
02:33:33,190 --> 02:33:30,560
eth nuts and bolts they may think that

4223
02:33:35,110 --> 02:33:33,200
it's maybe not quite such an important

4224
02:33:36,790 --> 02:33:35,120
piece of information to get in an

4225
02:33:39,429 --> 02:33:36,800
investigation

4226
02:33:42,870 --> 02:33:39,439
but if you're the type of person who

4227
02:33:45,670 --> 02:33:42,880
thinks that maybe ufos are partly a kind

4228
02:33:47,990 --> 02:33:45,680
of strange paranormal phenomenon along

4229
02:33:51,030 --> 02:33:48,000
with other paranormal stuff like

4230
02:33:53,990 --> 02:33:51,040
poltergeist or whatever in those cases

4231
02:33:57,750 --> 02:33:54,000
if that is true or partly true

4232
02:34:00,389 --> 02:33:57,760
then sometimes maybe a smell could be

4233
02:34:02,790 --> 02:34:00,399
very kind of important and as john you

4234
02:34:05,910 --> 02:34:02,800
mentioned yourself the sulfur smell and

4235
02:34:08,790 --> 02:34:05,920
that does come up quite a lot in various

4236
02:34:11,270 --> 02:34:08,800
paranormal kind of experiences

4237
02:34:15,590 --> 02:34:11,280
but are you resolutely uh you know an

4238
02:34:16,389 --> 02:34:15,600
eth classic ufos or alien spacecraft or

4239
02:34:18,790 --> 02:34:16,399
do you

4240
02:34:21,190 --> 02:34:18,800
keep a bit of your mind open for it

4241
02:34:23,349 --> 02:34:21,200
could be something even more strange

4242
02:34:25,750 --> 02:34:23,359
than that you know inter-dimensional

4243
02:34:27,190 --> 02:34:25,760
spiritual whatever yeah no i i

4244
02:34:29,429 --> 02:34:27,200
definitely have an open mind of what it

4245
02:34:31,110 --> 02:34:29,439
could possibly be i mean i'm rooting for

4246
02:34:33,349 --> 02:34:31,120
the extraterrestrial hypothesis but what

4247
02:34:34,630 --> 02:34:33,359
i tell people is these craft could be

4248
02:34:36,309 --> 02:34:34,640
from pretty much anywhere i mean they

4249
02:34:38,389 --> 02:34:36,319
could be extraterrestrial craft visiting

4250
02:34:41,429 --> 02:34:38,399
here they could be time travelers they

4251
02:34:42,950 --> 02:34:41,439
could be an indigenous species that's on

4252
02:34:44,790 --> 02:34:42,960
this planet living under the planet in

4253
02:34:46,309 --> 02:34:44,800
the planet they could be people who are

4254
02:34:48,630 --> 02:34:46,319
a phase shift to frequency different

4255
02:34:51,910 --> 02:34:48,640
than us they could be interdimensional

4256
02:34:53,990 --> 02:34:51,920
beings or creatures craft they could be

4257
02:34:56,230 --> 02:34:54,000
demonic spiritual

4258
02:34:58,389 --> 02:34:56,240
so the one thing i will say is that it

4259
02:35:00,710 --> 02:34:58,399
could be all of these things yeah

4260
02:35:03,429 --> 02:35:00,720
because they're not mutually exclusive

4261
02:35:05,110 --> 02:35:03,439
we're taking observations from human

4262
02:35:07,270 --> 02:35:05,120
beings about things that they're seeing

4263
02:35:09,270 --> 02:35:07,280
and witnessing what they're seeing could

4264
02:35:10,790 --> 02:35:09,280
be created by a number of different ways

4265
02:35:12,469 --> 02:35:10,800
i don't think it's any one answer i

4266
02:35:13,670 --> 02:35:12,479
think there's a lot of different answers

4267
02:35:15,270 --> 02:35:13,680
the ones i'm most interested in

4268
02:35:17,510 --> 02:35:15,280
personally are the extraterrestrial

4269
02:35:19,030 --> 02:35:17,520
because i believe that they have

4270
02:35:21,429 --> 02:35:19,040
developed technology if they're getting

4271
02:35:23,750 --> 02:35:21,439
here that would be very beneficial for

4272
02:35:25,429 --> 02:35:23,760
us to use on this planet i'm rooting

4273
02:35:27,110 --> 02:35:25,439
more against the demonic because i'd

4274
02:35:29,590 --> 02:35:27,120
rather not have

4275
02:35:31,670 --> 02:35:29,600
satan run around from the planet but but

4276
02:35:33,830 --> 02:35:31,680
i think again it's probably all of the

4277
02:35:36,469 --> 02:35:33,840
above and what i didn't even mention was

4278
02:35:38,550 --> 02:35:36,479
you know top secret craft from our own

4279
02:35:39,750 --> 02:35:38,560
government that have been built the

4280
02:35:41,750 --> 02:35:39,760
other thing we didn't mention of course

4281
02:35:43,190 --> 02:35:41,760
was ufo abductions i'll just throw this

4282
02:35:44,230 --> 02:35:43,200
out because we have to end this real

4283
02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:44,240
soon

4284
02:35:49,910 --> 02:35:46,960
one of our popular paranormal bloggers

4285
02:35:52,150 --> 02:35:49,920
is a fellow from mexico red pill junkie

4286
02:35:54,230 --> 02:35:52,160
is the name he uses and

4287
02:35:56,150 --> 02:35:54,240
he was comparing in a very lengthy

4288
02:35:58,710 --> 02:35:56,160
article and we published it in the power

4289
02:36:01,590 --> 02:35:58,720
cast newsletter and that is the theory

4290
02:36:04,150 --> 02:36:01,600
that near-death experiences

4291
02:36:05,910 --> 02:36:04,160
and ufo abductions have lots of

4292
02:36:07,110 --> 02:36:05,920
commonalities

4293
02:36:08,389 --> 02:36:07,120
now i'm going to ask very quickly

4294
02:36:10,630 --> 02:36:08,399
because we don't have the time

4295
02:36:12,870 --> 02:36:10,640
have you ever looked into that

4296
02:36:15,030 --> 02:36:12,880
well i i think dear death experiences

4297
02:36:17,030 --> 02:36:15,040
are another example

4298
02:36:18,950 --> 02:36:17,040
that our understanding of our of our

4299
02:36:21,270 --> 02:36:18,960
universe and how it works and the

4300
02:36:24,230 --> 02:36:21,280
physics behind it is woefully

4301
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:24,240
lacking so absolutely are they real

4302
02:36:27,590 --> 02:36:25,760
people are having these experiences i

4303
02:36:29,670 --> 02:36:27,600
don't believe it's brain oxygen

4304
02:36:30,870 --> 02:36:29,680
starvation which some in the medical

4305
02:36:32,550 --> 02:36:30,880
community are trying to make it out to

4306
02:36:34,469 --> 02:36:32,560
be i've talked to too many people who've

4307
02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:34,479
had these experiences they're real

4308
02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:36,640
they tie back to real people

4309
02:36:40,950 --> 02:36:39,280
real events people long since deceased

4310
02:36:42,309 --> 02:36:40,960
so it just tells me that we live in a

4311
02:36:44,550 --> 02:36:42,319
much stranger universe than we could

4312
02:36:46,230 --> 02:36:44,560
ever imagine jan harzan tell our

4313
02:36:48,790 --> 02:36:46,240
listeners please how they can learn more

4314
02:36:50,710 --> 02:36:48,800
about mufon and possibly become a member

4315
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absolutely i would invite everybody to

4316
02:36:54,630 --> 02:36:53,040
go to our website mufon.com

4317
02:36:56,150 --> 02:36:54,640
on there you can click on the join now

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4323
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have information for the public but also

4324
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more detailed in-depth information for

4325
02:37:12,790 --> 02:37:11,280
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4326
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finally to 24.99 a month for the vip

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other neat things so we'd encourage you

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4338
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4340
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joining us as guest co-host for the

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final two segments jan harzan thank you

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for joining us on the powercast

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well thank you for having me gene it was

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and christopher o'brien is a copyrighted

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